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Office of the Secretary of Defense: 022_SASC_Transcript_2023

Department of Defense. Office of the Secretary of Defense. · 2023 · 50 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is a stenographic transcript of an April 19, 2023 hearing of the Senate Armed Services Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities, chaired by Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, on the mission and budget of the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office. AARO released it in full in 2025. Director Sean Kirkpatrick testified that AARO has found no credible evidence of extraterrestrial activity and that most reports resolve into mundane objects. He also presented trend data and two declassified MQ-9 videos, one of which was resolved as a commuter aircraft.

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1 in the features and performance characteristics of many
2 objects observed by our highly-trained service members
3 operating top of the line military equipment.
4 We learned that for at least the past eight years
5 military pilots frequently encountered unknown objects in
6 controlled airspace off both the East and West Coasts,
7 across the continental United States, in test and training
8 areas and ranges.
9 We do not know where they are -- they come from, who
10 made them, or how they operate. As former Deputy Secretary
11 of Defense David Norquist observed, had any of these objects
12 had the label made in China there would be an uproar in the
13 government and media. There would be no stone unturned and
14 no effort spared to find out what we were dealing with.
15 We can look at the recent incursion of the unidentified
16 PRC high-altitude balloon as an example and because of the
17 UFO stigma the response has been irresponsibly anemic and
18 slow.
19 Congress established AARO. We made it clear that we
20 expect vigorous action. We added very substantial initial
21 funding for the office. But despite our best efforts the
22 President's budget for fiscal years '23 and '24 requested
23 only enough funding to defray the operating expenses of
24 AARO.
25 It included almost no funds to sustain the critical
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IAW FY24 NDAA, Section 1841(a)(1)(C)
Date: 2/6/2025
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