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Office of the Secretary of Defense: 022_SASC_Transcript_2023

Department of Defense. Office of the Secretary of Defense. · 2023 · 50 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is a stenographic transcript of an April 19, 2023 hearing of the Senate Armed Services Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities, chaired by Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, on the mission and budget of the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office. AARO released it in full in 2025. Director Sean Kirkpatrick testified that AARO has found no credible evidence of extraterrestrial activity and that most reports resolve into mundane objects. He also presented trend data and two declassified MQ-9 videos, one of which was resolved as a commuter aircraft.

  • p. 3 …Kirkpatrick is the director of the All-Domain 10 Anomaly Resolution Office, or AARO. Congress established…
  • p. 7 …6 The recent downing of the Chinese surveillance balloon 7 and three other objects underscores the…
  • p. 11 …we will have greatly 19 advanced the capability of the entire United States 20 government, including…
  • p. 26 …A handful of them 8 have made it all the way out to the other side…
  • p. 27 …19 Is it possible that the Chinese or Russian advanced 20 technologies could be causing some…
  • p. 28 …17 The adversary is not waiting. They are advancing and 18 they are advancing quickly. If…
  • p. 30 …5 And, unfortunately, the existence of advanced UAPs in 6 the U.S. airspace and over…
  • p. 48 …our advanced weapons and 12 manufacturing industry, monitor it using advanced means like 13 the -- 14…
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1 What can you tell us that is going on behind the scenes
2 from your perspective, and in the after action assessment
3 process is there awareness that there is a need to operate
4 differently in the future and a commitment to doing so?
5 Mr. Kirkpatrick: When the -- when the objects were
6 first detected I got called by Joint Staff leadership to
7 come in late one night to review events as they were
8 unfolding and to give them an assessment based on what we
9 knew at that time.
10 I did that. I worked with the director of Joint Staff,
11 the J2 and the J3 that night and over the couple of
12 following days on what are the types of things that we are
13 tracking from an unidentified object perspective, what
14 databases do we use those sorts of things for known objects,
15 known tracking.
16 Beyond that, the response I would have to -- I would
17 have to refer you back to the White House for the decision
18 on how they did the response. We did not play a role in
19 what you would respond other than that initial advice on
20 what we are seeing and how we are seeing it.
21 Senator Gillibrand: Thank you.
22 Senator Ernst?
23 Senator Ernst: Thank you, Madam Chair.
24 Dr. Kirkpatrick, I know that your office has gotten a
25 lot of attention recently and, of course, any new agency
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