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Office of the Secretary of Defense: 022_SASC_Transcript_2023

Department of Defense. Office of the Secretary of Defense. · 2023 · 50 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is a stenographic transcript of an April 19, 2023 hearing of the Senate Armed Services Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities, chaired by Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, on the mission and budget of the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office. AARO released it in full in 2025. Director Sean Kirkpatrick testified that AARO has found no credible evidence of extraterrestrial activity and that most reports resolve into mundane objects. He also presented trend data and two declassified MQ-9 videos, one of which was resolved as a commuter aircraft.

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1 flight, all of these other things, like I said, a follow-up
2 from the authorities or methodologies to data collection.
3 They can help us in other ways.
4 But how do you think we can develop a sustainable
5 affordable response to UAPs where we need to that may --
6 that will definitely violate our airspace -- not may,
7 definitely violate our airspace every chance that they can
8 get because they are adversaries. They want this
9 information.
10 So what do you think some cost effective measures might
11 be that we can get what we need out of that or take them
12 down, whatever is appropriate -- whatever the appropriate
13 measure is? Let us put it that way.
14 Mr. Kirkpatrick: So that is actually wrapped into the
15 plan ord that we are working with Joint Staff to send out --
16 what do the commands need from both a capabilities
17 perspective for kinetic and nonkinetic engagements, what are
18 the response functions of the particular wings or Navy, what
19 have you, and then what authorities do they need.
20 So one of the -- one of the challenges that we have
21 seen is there is an authorities issues with the -- with the
22 owners, operators of those ranges that they need to work
23 through and we are working that with the Joint Staff and
24 OSD.
25 So big picture we need to do all that. If you want to
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IAW FY24 NDAA, Section 1841(a)(1)(C)
Date: 2/6/2025
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