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Office of the Secretary of Defense: 022_SASC_Transcript_2023

Department of Defense. Office of the Secretary of Defense. · 2023 · 50 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is a stenographic transcript of an April 19, 2023 hearing of the Senate Armed Services Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities, chaired by Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, on the mission and budget of the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office. AARO released it in full in 2025. Director Sean Kirkpatrick testified that AARO has found no credible evidence of extraterrestrial activity and that most reports resolve into mundane objects. He also presented trend data and two declassified MQ-9 videos, one of which was resolved as a commuter aircraft.

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1 our collection posture targeted at some of these key areas
2 that you saw on that heat map that have a lot of activity so
3 that we can turn on extra collection when an operator sees
4 something.
5 So part of this is generating as a response function in
6 what we call a tactic technique and procedure for an
7 operator when he sees something, calls back to the
8 operations floor. They can turn on additional collection.
9 What does that collection look like? How do I bring all
10 that together so I can get more data on what is that thing?
11 Senator Rosen: Can I ask really quickly --
12 Mr. Kirkpatrick: Sure.
13 Senator Rosen: -- do you have the authorities you need
14 to extend your collection posture between agencies or
15 branches of the military? Because that seems to me to maybe
16 be a sticking point. I know my time is just about up.
17 I would love to follow up about your risk management
18 methodologies for some of these. But do you need any
19 authorities that you do not have to get the data you need?
20 Mr. Kirkpatrick: There are some authorities that we
21 need. We currently are operating under Title 10 authorities
22 but we have good relationships across the other agencies.
23 But having additional authorities for collection tasking,
24 counter-intelligence --
25 Senator Rosen: That is something --
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