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Office of the Secretary of Defense: 022_SASC_Transcript_2023

Department of Defense. Office of the Secretary of Defense. · 2023 · 50 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is a stenographic transcript of an April 19, 2023 hearing of the Senate Armed Services Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities, chaired by Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, on the mission and budget of the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office. AARO released it in full in 2025. Director Sean Kirkpatrick testified that AARO has found no credible evidence of extraterrestrial activity and that most reports resolve into mundane objects. He also presented trend data and two declassified MQ-9 videos, one of which was resolved as a commuter aircraft.

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1 the object.
2 We pulled these apart frame by frame. We were able to
3 demonstrate that that is essentially a readout overlap of
4 the image. It is a shadow image. It is not real.
5 Further, if you later follow this all the way to end it
6 starts to resolve itself into that blob that is in that
7 picture in the top right and if you squint it looks like an
8 aircraft because it actually turns out to be an aircraft.
9 Go ahead and put that on.
10 So you will see the tail sort of pop out there and so
11 what you are looking at is -- this is in the infrared --
12 this is the heat signature off of the engines of a commuter
13 aircraft that happened to be flying in the vicinity of where
14 those two MQ-9s were at.
15 Why am I showing you this? So the first one that I
16 showed you we do not have resolved yet. That is an
17 unresolved case we are still studying. This one we can
18 resolve. But this is the kind of data that we have to work
19 with and the type of analysis that we have to do, which can
20 be quite extensive when you have to pull these apart frame
21 by frame.
22 Further, we are now matching all of this with the
23 models of all of those imaging sensors so that I can say --
24 I can recreate this. I can actually show how the sensor is
25 going to respond. All of these sensors do not necessarily
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IAW FY24 NDAA, Section 1841(a)(1)(C)
Date: 2/6/2025
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