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[01/08/1997 - 09/11/1997]: 24194018-20060474F-001-018-2023

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This Clinton Presidential Library folder of NSC cables, filed under "Flying Saucer or UFO" and covering January to September 1997, holds several cables plus a withdrawal sheet listing three redacted items. A Tel Aviv embassy media report notes an Israeli cartoon about a January 5 UFO alert. An FBIS translation reports that a Colombian helicopter landed in Rubio, Venezuela, prompting UFO speculation. A DoD briefing transcript quotes Kenneth Bacon saying a CIA study found no evidence of UFOs, and an FBIS summary covers Cuban radio claims about the 1947 New Mexico crash.

  • p. 13 …BACON, ASD (PA) AT THE PENTAGON MR. BACON: GOOD AFTERNOON. IT'S APRIL FOOL'S DAY…
  • p. 16 …IF IT'S SUCH A GOOD PLANE, WHY DOESN'T THE PENTAGON WANT TO BUY ANY…
  • p. 19 …CAN YOU SHED ANY LIGHT ON EITHER OF THOSE REPORTS? IS THE PENTAGON AWARE OF IT…
  • p. 20 …TO KIND OF PUT THIS STORY IN PERSPECTIVE, HAS THE UNITED STATES OR THE PENTAGON NOTICED…
  • p. 22 WITHOUT ANY PENTAGON REVIEW OF THE SECURITY THREAT? A: THE SECURITY REVIEW OF THE COSCO ARRANGEMENT…
  • p. 23 …HAVE BEEN--ARE--LOOKING AT WAYS THAT THE PENTAGON CAN BE RUN MORE EFFICIENTLY, AND THAT…
  • p. 25 …BACON, ASD (PA) AT THE PENTAGON MR. BACON: WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON. IT CERTAINLY IS A GREAT…
  • p. 28 …APOSTOLOS TSOHATZOPOULOS AND THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE WILLIAM COHEN HERE AT THE PENTAGON? A: I HAVEN…
  • p. 30 …DOES THE PENTAGON SEE ROOM FOR COMPROMISE HERE, OR IS THE PRESIDENT GOING TO INSIST, AND…
  • p. 31 …THAT IF THE CONGRESS DOESN'T LIFT THE 60-40 RULE, THAT THE PENTAGON WILL NOT…
  • p. 33 …BACON, ASD (PA) AT THE PENTAGON MR. BACON: GOOD AFTERNOON. SORRY I'M LATE FOR THE…
  • p. 36 …OF THE SECURITY PROCEDURES? AND ARE YOU CONFIDENT GENERALLY THAT SECURITY AT THE PENTAGON IS ADEQUATE…
  • p. 38 …WERE HIS ACTIONS CAPTURED ON THE PENTAGON VIDEO MONITOR? PAGE 03 RUEKJCS7746 UNCLAS A: THEY WERE…
  • p. 39 …HE'S PART OF THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM THAT THE PENTAGON HAS, SORT OF A SEPARATE…
  • p. 40 PAGE 06 RUEKJCS7746 UNCLAS NAVAL HEADQUARTERS WHICH IS ON THE FOURTH FLOOR OF THE PENTAGON. FIRST…
  • p. 41 …DOES DEFENSE SECURITY GO TO THE VITAL OFFICES AROUND THE PENTAGON AND ALSO TO PROTECT TOP…
  • p. 42 …THE PENTAGON? A: WE ARE DOING IT. WE ARE, ONE, LOOKING AT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE…
  • p. 43 …OVER THE WEEKEND, OR IT WAS RELEASED OR REPORTED ON OVER THE WEEKEND -- AS PENTAGON SPOKESMAN…

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A: HE WAS STAFF SERGEANT EZZARD C. FULLER, E-Z-Z-A-R-D, 42 YEARS OLD, FROM SHREVEPORT, LOUISIANA. HE HAS A FAMILY -- SURVIVED BY A WIFE AND THREE DAUGHTERS, A SON, STEP-DAUGHTER, AND TWO STEP-SONS. HE AS ASSIGNED TO THE 603RD TRANSPORTATION COMPANY AT FORT POLK, LOUISIANA. HIS SPECIALTY WAS TRUCK DRIVER. AS I SAID EARLIER, THE INCIDENT REMAINS UNDER INVESTIGATION.

Q: CAN YOU UPDATE US ON THE REVIEW OF THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE "DON'T ASK, DON'T TELL" POLICY? WHO'S IN CHARGE OF IT AND HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE? THIS EVIDENTLY CAME UP MONTHS AGO, BUT...

A: IT DID. IT CAME UP SHORTLY AFTER THE SERVICEMEMBERS LEGAL DEFENSE NETWORK REPORT CAME OUT. IT'S BEING DONE BY FRED PANG, THE ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR FORCE MANAGEMENT POLICY, HE'S SUPERVISING IT. I CAN'T TELL YOU WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE COMPLETED, BUT IT BASICALLY HAS TWO MAJOR ELEMENTS TO IT. THE FIRST IS TO LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE DISCHARGED EVERY YEAR BECAUSE THEY'VE EITHER ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WERE HOMOSEXUALS OR BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN DISCOVERED TO BE HOMOSEXUALS. IN OTHER

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WORDS, DISCHARGED FOR HOMOSEXUALITY. THAT NUMBER HAS RISEN OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, AND WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S RISEN. THAT'S THE FIRST PART OF THE STUDY.

THE SECOND PART OF THE STUDY IS TO LOOK INTO SOME OF THE SPECIFIC CHARGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE BY THE SLDN AND OTHER GROUPS ABOUT INAPPROPRIATE INVESTIGATIONS. WE WANT TO FIND OUT IF THOSE ALLEGATIONS ARE CORRECT OR NOT. THE GOAL OF THE STUDY IS TO FIND OUT IF THE "DON'T ASK, DON'T TELL, DON'T PURSUE" LAW IS CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD BY MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY -- BOTH ENLISTED AND OFFICERS, PARTICULARLY BY COMMANDERS -- AND WHETHER IT'S BEING CONSISTENTLY AND FAIRLY ENFORCED THROUGHOUT THE MILITARY.

SECRETARY COHEN FELT THAT THE LAW WHICH HAS BEEN IN EFFECT FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS COULD BE APPROPRIATELY REVIEWED, AND WE OUGHT TO FIND OUT, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF IT, COULD BE APPROPRIATELY REVIEWED NOW. WE HAVE SOME EVIDENCE, WE HAVE SOME FACTS. WE OUGHT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THEM AND SEE WHERE WE STAND.

THIS IS A LAW. WE CANNOT CHANGE THE LAW. WE DON'T INTEND TO CHANGE THE LAW. WE DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE LAW. IT'S JUST LOOKING AT HOW WELL THE LAW'S UNDERSTOOD AND HOW WELL IT'S BEING IMPLEMENTED.

UNCLAS FINAL SECTION OF 05

Q: BY ANY PROCESS AT ALL, BY THE END OF THE YEAR PERHAPS..

A: OH, IT WILL BE DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR. I JUST DON'T HAVE A PRECISE DATE FOR WHEN IT WILL BE DONE.

Q: WHAT ABOUT THE REQUEST FROM SPEAKER GINGRICH THAT A NEW INVESTIGATION BE SET UP ON SEXUAL MATTERS IN THE MILITARY? IS THERE ANYONE JUMPING TO THAT HERE IN THE PENTAGON?

A: WE ARE DOING IT. WE ARE, ONE, LOOKING AT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE "DON'T ASK, DON'T TELL, DON'T PURSUE" LAW, AND WE ALREADY HAVE THREE SEPARATE INVESTIGATIONS UNDERWAY LOOKING AT ISSUES THAT CAME OUT OF ABERDEEN AND THE KELLY FLINN CASE. THESE ARE THREE DOD INVESTIGATIONS. AS YOU KNOW, THE ARMY HAS DONE ITS OWN INVESTIGATION OF INTEGRATED TRAINING AND HOW THAT'S WORKING IN THE ARMY AND WHAT SOME OF THE PROBLEMS WERE THAT WERE ILLUSTRATED BY ABERDEEN.

SO WE HAVE MANY INVESTIGATIONS UNDERWAY, THE MOST PROMINENT

Cases discussed

  • Roswell Incident 1947
    explosion of a UFO in New Mexico in 1947 and the results of an autopsy... kept a secret by the Americans

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Official release, from the nara collection. The PDF is mirrored here; the original link is above. The text was read from the page images by GLM-OCR; expect the odd misread word. 48 pages are in the text index: search them above, or from the library's search.