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[01/08/1997 - 09/11/1997]: 24194018-20060474F-001-018-2023

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This Clinton Presidential Library folder of NSC cables, filed under "Flying Saucer or UFO" and covering January to September 1997, holds several cables plus a withdrawal sheet listing three redacted items. A Tel Aviv embassy media report notes an Israeli cartoon about a January 5 UFO alert. An FBIS translation reports that a Colombian helicopter landed in Rubio, Venezuela, prompting UFO speculation. A DoD briefing transcript quotes Kenneth Bacon saying a CIA study found no evidence of UFOs, and an FBIS summary covers Cuban radio claims about the 1947 New Mexico crash.

  • p. 13 …BACON, ASD (PA) AT THE PENTAGON MR. BACON: GOOD AFTERNOON. IT'S APRIL FOOL'S DAY…
  • p. 16 …IF IT'S SUCH A GOOD PLANE, WHY DOESN'T THE PENTAGON WANT TO BUY ANY…
  • p. 19 …CAN YOU SHED ANY LIGHT ON EITHER OF THOSE REPORTS? IS THE PENTAGON AWARE OF IT…
  • p. 20 …TO KIND OF PUT THIS STORY IN PERSPECTIVE, HAS THE UNITED STATES OR THE PENTAGON NOTICED…
  • p. 22 WITHOUT ANY PENTAGON REVIEW OF THE SECURITY THREAT? A: THE SECURITY REVIEW OF THE COSCO ARRANGEMENT…
  • p. 23 …HAVE BEEN--ARE--LOOKING AT WAYS THAT THE PENTAGON CAN BE RUN MORE EFFICIENTLY, AND THAT…
  • p. 25 …BACON, ASD (PA) AT THE PENTAGON MR. BACON: WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON. IT CERTAINLY IS A GREAT…
  • p. 28 …APOSTOLOS TSOHATZOPOULOS AND THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE WILLIAM COHEN HERE AT THE PENTAGON? A: I HAVEN…
  • p. 30 …DOES THE PENTAGON SEE ROOM FOR COMPROMISE HERE, OR IS THE PRESIDENT GOING TO INSIST, AND…
  • p. 31 …THAT IF THE CONGRESS DOESN'T LIFT THE 60-40 RULE, THAT THE PENTAGON WILL NOT…
  • p. 33 …BACON, ASD (PA) AT THE PENTAGON MR. BACON: GOOD AFTERNOON. SORRY I'M LATE FOR THE…
  • p. 36 …OF THE SECURITY PROCEDURES? AND ARE YOU CONFIDENT GENERALLY THAT SECURITY AT THE PENTAGON IS ADEQUATE…
  • p. 38 …WERE HIS ACTIONS CAPTURED ON THE PENTAGON VIDEO MONITOR? PAGE 03 RUEKJCS7746 UNCLAS A: THEY WERE…
  • p. 39 …HE'S PART OF THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM THAT THE PENTAGON HAS, SORT OF A SEPARATE…
  • p. 40 PAGE 06 RUEKJCS7746 UNCLAS NAVAL HEADQUARTERS WHICH IS ON THE FOURTH FLOOR OF THE PENTAGON. FIRST…
  • p. 41 …DOES DEFENSE SECURITY GO TO THE VITAL OFFICES AROUND THE PENTAGON AND ALSO TO PROTECT TOP…
  • p. 42 …THE PENTAGON? A: WE ARE DOING IT. WE ARE, ONE, LOOKING AT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE…
  • p. 43 …OVER THE WEEKEND, OR IT WAS RELEASED OR REPORTED ON OVER THE WEEKEND -- AS PENTAGON SPOKESMAN…

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THE BUILDING WITH MANY ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION. YES, I'D SAY HE WAS [DOING] WHAT WE TRAIN POLICE OFFICERS, THE PROTECTIVE FORCE AT THE PENTAGON, TO DO. HE WAS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF TRAINING AND COURAGE COMING TO THE FORE ALL AT ONCE.

I POINTED OUT TO YOU THAT THIS FELLOW, MAESTAS, WEIGHS 240 POUNDS, AND THAT OFFICER FREEMAN IS CONSIDERABLY SMALLER, WEIGHS ABOUT 165 POUNDS. HE WORKS OUT. HE'S PART OF THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM THAT THE PENTAGON HAS, SORT OF A SEPARATE, MORE

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ELITE SWAT TEAM. THESE ARE THE GUYS YOU SEE DRESS UP IN SORT OF JEDI-TYPE UNIFORMS IN BLACK AT TIMES OF CRISIS AROUND THE BUILDING WHEN WE'RE EXPECTING UNUSUAL EVENTS, CHALLENGES. HE'S ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. SO HE HAS ADDITIONAL TRAINING BEYOND WHAT IT TAKES TO BE AN OFFICER.

Q: HOW LONG HAS HE BEEN ON THE FORCE?

A: I'M AFRAID I DON'T KNOW THAT.

Q: YOU NOTED THAT EVERYTHING WENT RIGHT THE WAY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO WORK TODAY. BUT IT SEEMS ALSO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SITUATION, THAT THERE WAS CERTAINLY POTENTIAL THAT IF EVERYTHING HADN'T GONE EXACTLY RIGHT THAT WE COULD HAVE HAD A HUGE TRAGEDY HERE TODAY. ISN'T IT SOMEWHAT COMPLACENT TO JUST SAY EVERYTHING WORKED, EVERYTHING'S FINE? DOESN'T THIS POINT OUT THAT THERE MAY BE MORE OF A THREAT THAN WAS ANTICIPATED?

A: FIRST OF ALL, JAMIE, I DON'T KNOW HOW I CAN SAY ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN EVERYTHING WORKED BECAUSE, IN FACT, IT DID. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE POLICE OFFICERS. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE SECURITY, TO PREVENT DISASTERS. IN THIS CASE, IT WORKED.

I TOLD YOU THAT EVERY SECURITY INCIDENT GIVES US A REASON TO REVIEW OUR PROCEDURES AND TO REVIEW EVERYTHING FROM TRAINING, TO

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THE RECRUITING OF PERSONNEL, TO THE PROCEDURES, TO THE PHYSICAL BARRIERS AT ENTRANCEWAYS, AND WE WILL DO THAT. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT ANYTHING WAS WRONG OR THAT WE'LL CHANGE ANYTHING, BUT IT'S AN INVITATION FOR A REVIEW, AND WE WILL TAKE THAT INVITATION.

BUT I THINK, LOOKING AT THE FACTS HERE, YOU HAVE TO CONCLUDE THAT THIS WENT EXTREMELY WELL AND WE SHOULD THANK OFFICER FREEMAN AND WE SHOULD THANK MARVIN FRAZIER, HIS AIDE, FOR THE GOOD JOB THEY DID IN APPREHENDING THIS FELLOW.

Q: BUT IS THERE CONCERN THAT THERE WERE ONLY TWO OFFICERS BETWEEN THIS GUNMAN AND NAVAL HEADQUARTERS?

A: FIRST OF ALL, NAVAL HEADQUARTERS ISN'T EXACTLY ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE PENTAGON. ONE OF THE THINGS WE POINTED OUT HERE WAS THAT THE FIRST THING THE SECURITY AIDE, FRAZIER, DID, WAS TO CALL FOR REINFORCEMENTS AND THE REINFORCEMENTS WERE THERE VERY, VERY QUICKLY. THERE ARE PLENTY OF OFFICERS IN THE AREA, PARTICULARLY DURING THE HEAVY TRAFFIC TIMES OF THE DAY. THERE ARE PEOPLE MOVING AROUND, THERE ARE PEOPLE OUTSIDE, THERE ARE PEOPLE INSIDE THE BUILDING, SO THE REINFORCEMENTS WERE THERE VERY QUICKLY. I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD NECESSARILY ASSUME THAT HAD THIS FELLOW GOTTEN THROUGH, HE WOULD HAVE HAD A CLEAR SHOT AT

Cases discussed

  • Roswell Incident 1947
    explosion of a UFO in New Mexico in 1947 and the results of an autopsy... kept a secret by the Americans

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Official release, from the nara collection. The PDF is mirrored here; the original link is above. The text was read from the page images by GLM-OCR; expect the odd misread word. 48 pages are in the text index: search them above, or from the library's search.