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Scanned: Case Number 243544: 42-t-1127712-20060476F-001-001-2013

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This file, released by the William J. Clinton Presidential Library under FOIA request 2006-0476-F, holds White House correspondence records for case 243544. In a July 8, 1997 letter to President Clinton, Kent Jeffrey of the International Roswell Initiative submitted more than 20,000 signed copies of the Roswell Declaration, which asks for an Executive Order declassifying UFO information. On December 9, 1997 the Air Force replied that such an order was unnecessary because declassification under E.O. 12958 was already underway.

  • p. 30 …of General Bob Scott and his wife Terry. I have known the Scotts for a couple…
  • p. 46 …Schatte of Houston, TX, and assisted by Terry Blanton and Theresa Carlson. For our computer friends…
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fice. Shandera then sent DuBose a set of the pic
tures, prior to conducting the second interview.
Throughout the two interviews, Shandera
questioned DuBose with the doggedness of a
district attorney, asking him nine times in nine
different ways whether the debris had been
switched. Nine times, General DuBose made it
emphatically clear that the debris had not been
switched. Among DuBose's responses were
"We never switched anything ... We were West
Pointers - we would never have done thaLI
have damn good eyesight...1 had charge of that
material, and it was never switched," When
shown the pictures from Ramey's office and
asked if he recognized the material, he replied,
"Oh yes. That's the material that Marcel brought
in to Ft. Worth from Roswell."
In William Moore's book The Roswell
Incident, Jesse Marcel, Sr., was interviewed
about the debris. His responses were somewhat
puzzling in that he indicated that the photos of
him were of the actual debris, but that the later
photos (without him) contained substituted ma
terial. Later photos with substituted debris (even
if they existed) wouldn't really matter. If the de
bris in the photo with Major Marcel was the ac
tual material, it was from an ML- 307 radar re
nector. Again, end of story.
Among Marcel's responses were "They took
one picture of me on the floor holding up some
of the less-interesting metallic debris .... The
stuff in that one photo was pieces of the actual
stuff we had found. It was not a staged photo."
During one of my interviews with Irving
Newton, he mentioned how in Ramey's office,
Marcel had pointed Ollt the symbols and indi
cated that he (Marcel) thought they might be
some form of alien writing. When I asked him if
he was sure that it was Marcel who did that,
Newton was emphatic that it was the man who
"had collected the debris from the ranch." This
is, of course, one fUither indication that the de
bris in Ran1ey's office was the debris from the
Foster ranch. There was no substitution. The de
bris in the pictures was the same debris collected
by Major Marcel at the Foster Ranch. It was the
debris from an ML-307 radar reflector.
There is also an interesting quote in Moore's
book from Marcel about the so-called indestruc
tibility of the material. It sounds like this now
legendary indestructibility was actually more the
kind of indestructibility that you would find in
material from something like a tough, paper
backed foil. Marcel stated, "It was possible to
flex this stuff back and forth, even wrinkle it,
but you could not put a crease in it that would
stay, nor could you dent it at all. J would almost
have to describe it as metal with plastic proper
ties."
Throughout the
two interviews,
Shandera
questioned
DuBose with
the dogged
ness of a dis
trict attorney,
asking him
nine times in
nine different
ways whether
the debris had
been switched.
Nine times,
General
DuBose made
it emphatically
clear that the
debris had not
been switched.
June
1997
Number 350
Page 13

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    Roswell Declaration on 1947 recovery at Roswell Army Air Field, weather balloon cover story

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Official release, from the nara collection. The PDF is mirrored here; the original link is above. 47 pages are in the text index: search them above, or from the library's search.