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MOD file DEFE 24/2032/1

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This Ministry of Defence file, released through The National Archives and published by The Black Vault, holds the MOD's 2002 handling of Dr David Clarke's requests for UFO documents under the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information. It includes the MOD's 9 December 2002 reply, which covered reports from 1976, 1980, 1993 and 1996 and charged £260. It also contains internal emails and file requisitions, plus Foreign Office and United Nations papers from 1978 on Grenada's proposal for UFO research.

  • p. 40 …But, unlike with the aircraft reported by the noble Earl, I have never seen one. I…
  • p. 43 …the United States of America which has never been made known to the public and even…
  • p. 45 …will be, Yes, and yet they have never seen one. We are asking you to believe…
  • p. 46 …selfish- ness and tendency to panic as never before since the days of the Crusades. The…
  • p. 47 …I never reached that standard of mathematics. However I know that Einstein believed that ele~tro…
  • p. 51 …The difficulty about such an explanation is that they never seem to come into actual contact…
  • p. 53 …some of the things he told us. Never- theless, I feel that it is of immense…
  • p. 58 …What sort of an interpretation would somebody who had H.L.8 Q never read about…
  • p. 59 …l should lib:1 have never seen ball lightning, but the 1 to go into the…
  • p. 60 …She said "I don't \Vant to, because it will spoil it all." They said " Never…
  • p. 62 …Of ;orts of sightings ~never it has been n·estigation they tttral phenomena pet to say…
  • p. 67 …1308 fro,m h;m ag~;n ~n many other occ";?"'· ' Why have they never tded…
  • p. 112 ..~ say that in the Air Force, for tne moment, they have never seemed to come directly…
  • p. 131 …informed that 11so far the military have never fonnd an-ything of D.nt1tjgressive nature fro…
  • p. 161 …Air Force, for tile moment, they have never seemed to come directly under air defence. ' . I…
  • p. 177 …informed that 11so far the military have never found anything of an~~gressive nature from the…
  • p. 187 …But it would be a brave man who said there could never, ever,be manned inter…
  • p. 190 …a cloud descended and picked up ~he regiment and it was never heard of again ••••••• (checking…
  • p. 192 …Let me assure this House that Her Majesty's Government has never been approached by people…
  • p. 209 …But it would be a brave man who said there could never, ever,be manned inter…
  • p. 212 …a cl6ud descended and picked up :the regiment and it was never heard of again ••••••• (checking…
  • p. 214 …Let me assure this Rouse that Her Majesty's Government has never been approached by people…
  • p. 300 …despite agreeing to complete a report form, this has never been returned - I wonder why? (13)
  • p. 320 …Mrllllllll stated that he had been a Met Officer for 8 years and had never~nything…
  • p. 368 …despite agreeing to complete a report form, this has never been returned - I wonder why? (13)
  • p. 399 …Significantly, the plot was never present on radar displays from the NATS sensors at Cromer and…
  • p. 417 …RAF Northwood was never involved in this event. confusion has arisen because Gt Yarmouth coastguard, referred…
  • p. 432 …Significantly, the plot was never present on radar displays from the NATS sensors at Cromer and…
Copies of report made by RAF Fylingdales, North Yorkshire, of unidentified objects
tracked by the BMEWS on or about 13 September 1980, and reported to MOD. Also, any
sightings made by MOD Police and civilian (West Yorkshire) police officers on about the
same date.
You also later requested a copy of a report fro of the West Yorkshire Police
concerning a UFO he observed in the early hours of28 November 1980.
Files D/DS8/75/2/5 Part B (UFO Reports-August to November 1980) and D/DS8/75/2/2 Part M
(UFO Reports- Edited Copies-August to September 1980) were examined. The files contained
no reports from RAF Fylingdales for the 13 September 1980. As you requested reports "on or
about the l31h September" I have enclosed copies of all the reports received from Police Officers
for the whole of September 1980.
The files contained no report on 28 November 1980.
4. Copies of UFO reports made in the early hours of30/31 March 1993 by RAF and
meteorological office personnel and by members of the public, from a number of locations
including RAF Cosford and RAF Shawbury. In addition copies of assessment made.
File D/Sec(AS)12/7 was examined and I enclose a copy ofthe reports as requested. I have also
included a copy of a loose minute showing enquiries made and details of a radar replay conducted
by the Aeronautical Information Service (Military).
5. Reports of unusual phenomena on radar in the early hours of 5 October 1996
reported by the SOC Neatishead and UFO reports made by Lincolnshire police and the
Skegness coastguard. Copies of investigation notes and assessment made.
File D/Sec(AS)64/2 Part D was examined and three documents were found. I apologise for the
quality of the Facsimile message from RAF Neatishead. We have checked with RAF Neatishead
as to whether they have a clearer copy on file, but unfortunately they no longer have any details of
these events. With these papers I have also included a copy of a loose minute which was written
following several reports in the press criticising UK air defence systems. Although this does not
strictly fit your request, I have included it because it gives clear details of the sequence of events
and may therefore be of interest to you.
The work has taken 21 hours and 20 minutes to complete and as, indicated in my letter of 16
September, the first 4 hours are free of charge. The remaining 17 hours and 20 minutes, at £15.00
an hour, result in a cost of £260. I would be grateful if you would let me have your crossed
cheque, made payable to "Accounting Officer MOD".
Finally, in your letter of 11 November you asked how the Freedom oflnformation Act will effect
the '30 year rule'. The Freedom oflnformation (FOI) Act 2000 gives a right of access to all
information held by public authorities. Any person making a request for information to a public
authority is entitled to be informed whether the public authority holds such information and, if
that is the case, to have the information communicated to them unless an exemption applies. This
right of access becomes effective on 1 January 2005. Both MOD and the Public Record Office
(PRO) are public authorities under the terms of the Act and therefore the information in the public
records they hold is within its scope.
The FOI Act repeals the access provisions in section 5(1) of the Public Records Act 1958-1967
and hence from January 2005 access to public records, wherever they are and irrespective of the
age of the records, will be governed by the FOI Act. The 30 year closure period as a default goes,

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