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This Ministry of Defence file, released through The National Archives and published by The Black Vault, holds the MOD's 2002 handling of Dr David Clarke's requests for UFO documents under the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information. It includes the MOD's 9 December 2002 reply, which covered reports from 1976, 1980, 1993 and 1996 and charged £260. It also contains internal emails and file requisitions, plus Foreign Office and United Nations papers from 1978 on Grenada's proposal for UFO research.
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'· ' ' .• t ··~ 1~04'. i1l! fo- :'!rp of mystery, for the removal of The Earl of CORK and ORRERY: I thought that I had my noble friend right, my Lords; in other words, the telescope has not seen anything that was inexpiic- ab!e. But I do not think that that is really an argument that something does not exist. The qu~stion is: what kind of thing c::n it be'? I hope that my :r;oble friend docs r:ot think that I am going on about him-I no Jonzer am. How is it possible to maintain more than a certain degree of doubt in 1979? I remember, as may some other noble Lords, one or two of whom may be present in the Chamber, my predecessor who sat in this Hous.::. He was born in the year 1886. When he was born there were no moto·r-bicydes or gramophones, fountain pens, safety razors or electric trains. Messrs. Daimler and Benz in Germany were just putting the first petrol-driven car on to the road, and Einstein, I think, was eight years old. !v1y noble and gallant kinsman, when he finally left the active list of the Navy at a very advanced age, had lived into the age of the nuclear submarine, having hegun his first sea-going voyage under sail. That was the band of progress represented technologica!ly in the lifetime of one serving naval officer. What would he have said had he been tc>ld that in my Iieftime-and I am not even all that near the end of it, either-! should see men on the moon; or computer tect:nology carried to the pitch that it has reached; or that there would be such' an outbreak of wisdom foliowing Einstein and men like Schrodinger, Heisenberg and others; or the astonishing ascent of knowledge into the atomic world? doubt, for even the eliminating of some of the dangers which may er.ist and to which the right reverend Prelate referred, some kind of an open inquiry ought to be set up. II am rather inclined to agree with the noble Lord-I think that it was the noble Lord, Lord Kings Norton-who said that I probably it should not b•!. an intra- 1 governmental inquiry. I think it should be somctin' , 'ther more open than that, but it ough. J lake place. If a group is set up within this House, as suggested by the noble Earl himself,. that would be excellent. I should myelf be entirely in fav0nr of it. In any case, let us get this matter cleared up and into the open, and by all means Jet us take it seriously, bec:au;,e this is a serious subject. Far too many people are taking it seriously for it not to be a serious subject. Finally, I wish to voice my most sincere congratulations to . my noble friend who made his maiden speech this afternoon. It is very impertinent of me to congratulte him upon it, but I should like to say how much I enjoyed it. I have no.t yet said anything complimentary about the noble Earl who initiated the debate. I have left this to the end on purpose because I think it may not be entirely realised what a service he has done. This is the first such debatt that has occurred in any societ)' such as this par- ticular one; and this society, by which I mean this noble House of P;;rliament, is probably the only legislative assembly in the world in which it could happen. l hope that it will have repercussions which will spread far beyond this Chamber. What the outcome will be I do not know, but, in initiating the ripples which I hope will spread all over the surface of the mill-pond, the noble Earl has done a most valuable service. · · This has all happened in the lifetime of many of us, and yet we sit here; some of us, and say that marvels which have been ·postulated by some, and which indeed are less in magnitude than most of 10.10 p.m. those would have been to my uncle, are Lord STRABOLGI: My Lord~,· I impossible. We are not all saying that- should like to join with the noble Earl, perhaps nobody is saying that-but the Lord Cork· and Orrery, in saying how argument is quite untenable. I have no grateful we are to the nobie Eari. Lord wish to express any view on what a UFO Clancarty, for initiating this debate on may be. What I wish to say is that there UFOs. Of course, the subject has been is no knowing what it is not. It may be a of considerable interest in this country, product of some kind of sign language, as and I hope our discussions, which, as the the noble Earl, Lord Kimberley, men- I noble Earl rightly said, have been the tioned.' It may "be mechanical. It may first that we haTe had-- in your Lordships' "f"" ...... -.,'J:"•~'"'''' •- '"'C"T•,..,._,, ...... _.~ ·~-~-,...- ..,,_..,,,."1-".,._. __ ,.........,"'-''-:' -.w";"'~''~'''''<'•"'"'~~~---• .. •••••'-l<~ .... , .... '' \" •,•••·••-]:'<'~---~· ',,,,,,., .:...;, ....:.. :,.
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