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MOD file DEFE 24/2032/1

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This Ministry of Defence file, released through The National Archives and published by The Black Vault, holds the MOD's 2002 handling of Dr David Clarke's requests for UFO documents under the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information. It includes the MOD's 9 December 2002 reply, which covered reports from 1976, 1980, 1993 and 1996 and charged £260. It also contains internal emails and file requisitions, plus Foreign Office and United Nations papers from 1978 on Grenada's proposal for UFO research.

  • p. 6 …Copy of the file relating to a UFO report made by-nd- near Winchester, Hampshire on…
  • p. 7 …Files D/DS8/75/2/5 Part B (UFO Reports-August to November 1980) and D…
  • p. 9 …ofLords Debate on UFOs, on 18 January 1979. On examining our files we have discovered a…
  • p. 17 …SPfCIFIC ACTION ON UFO'S AND PRECLUDES THE INSCRIPTJOr OF A SETARATE UFO ITEM ON NEXT…
  • p. 18 …Ol<Ell ~-~i;Js"-7.-zlL- ... ! FILES F:~-~-~.:~:i ~:; ., '· .~::-~· :·:J. ~, ·) -.llJ'JD ES & SD N…
  • p. 35 …Our files contain reports and Nick Pope's letters to Dl55 and notes about D Air…
  • p. 69 …Galley had said that UFOs were real but that he, the Minister, did not know where…
  • p. 70 …It cfo!lows UFOs, the truth is simple. There really that the files must remain closed…
  • p. 134 …We may be in for a long hau1 on UFOs. The reply to the Earl will…
  • p. 185 …Copies of enclosures 1/1, 1/2,1/3,1/4 from file Dl55/1 08…
  • p. 190 …We have rio reason to believe that the so-called UFOs are attributed to anything but…
  • p. 212 …We have rio reason to believe that the so-called UFOs are attributed to anything but…
  • p. 303 …I received a non Ufo report from a gentleman (name on file) who is a recently…
  • p. 371 …I received a non Ufo report from a gentleman (name on file) who is a recently…
  • p. 451 DR CLARKE- REQUEST FOR INFORMATION Request 1 Copy of the file relating to a UFO report…
  • p. 453 …1977) on the UN debate on UFOs. (Unclassified) 18. File note dated 16 Dec 1977 seying…
  • p. 454 …French handling of UFO reports. (Unclassified) 29. Draft reply, background note and file minutes concerning Lord…
  • p. 455 …There is one file D/Sec(AS)12/7- Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs)- Alleged UFO incident…
  • p. 456 …The file contains no real conclusion to these events and Mr Pope was eventually told by…
  • p. 460 …I am currently making - for access to UFO files currently 'closed' under the 30 year rule…
  • p. 462 …UFO report made by Winchester, Hampshire on 14 November 1976. • and I have now received file…
  • p. 463 …UFO report files that we have recalled from archives show that UFO reports were once filed…
  • p. 464 I am sorry we are unable to locate the file(s) you requested on the information…
  • p. 466 …Lords debate on UFOs, on 18 January 1979. We had two files on this, but these…
  • p. 467 …Lords debate on UFOs, on 18 January 1979. We had two files on this, but these…
  • p. 468 REQUISITION FOR A REGISTERED FILE To:-DR2a2 File Nos: (1) D/DS8/75/3 UFOs- Parliamentary…
  • p. 470 …Ifthe UFO reports y, \.j.tf' '\,....,.~V'tt contains are filed in chronologie~! order as is…
  • p. 471 …The file reference D/Sec(AS)1217 UFOs, alleged UFO incident, 31st March 1993, appears 0…
  • p. 472 …Does your branch retain a list of UFO files that have been destroyed, and the reasons…
  • p. 474 …DAO ADGE1 Subject: UFO Importance: Low Sir Unfortunately, Neatishead destroyed their files (and therefore any transcript…
  • p. 476 …Copy of the file relating to a UFO report made and -near Winchester, Hampshire, on 14…
  • p. 477 …file which may contain relevant information. D/Sec(AS)12/7- Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs)- Alleged…
  • p. 478 …The files concerned are: D/DSS/75/2/2 Part L (1980) UFO Reports: Edited D…
  • p. 480 …This was produced because it was believed that some UFO files might have been over looked…
  • p. 482 . . ~·. MOD Form 262E REQUISITION FORA REGISTERED FILE To:-DR2a2 File Nos: 1) D/DS8/7517 PtA…
  • p. 486 …We have a file on these events, but I know DIS also have a file D…
  • p. 487 …The file I need is PRO reference AIR 2/18977 UFO Reports- due for release in…
  • p. 489 …Copy of the file relating to a UFO report made by near Winch~ster, ~am~s…
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1289 Unidentified [ 18 JANUARY 1979 J Flying Objects 12S'<O
set of considerations, which augurs well
for his· future in your Lordships' House,
wl1ere I know he is already welcome.
At the risk of capping the ~tories of
the noble Lord, Lord Gainford, I should
like to tell your Lordships about some of
the sightings I have seen. I will order
them in terms of my curriculum ritae,
beginning at the age of six, when I saw
an angel. I do not know whether it was
the noble Lord, Lord Davie3 of Leek,
who mentioned aneels, or \\+ether it
was the noble Lord: Lord Trefgarne, or
the noble Earl, Lord Kimberley; but it
is perfectly true that there was my
guardian angel sitting on the edge of my
bed. Naturally, with the imagination of
a child, I clothed lhis presence in human
form with a large pair of feathery wings.
This presence procec-ded to rebuke me for
initiating a practice which it said would
_get me into trouble if I persisted in it.
Having remembered the rebuke all my
life and acted upon it, I am not prepared
to deny the reality of the presence that
was there with me. This should be a
sufficient answer to the noble Earl-l see
I have put him to flight-who thinks that
if scientists come across something they
cannot explain they are afflicted with a
kind of vertigo. On the contrary, we
welcome something we cannot explain
because it is a new phenomenon which, as
it were, stretches our capacities and brings
out something in us.
The next item came along in year two
of World War I. I was about eight years
old, and the next thing that I sighted
were Zeppelins. I used to go out after
dark into the garden of the house where
we lived and come back reporting the
number of Zeppelins I had seen. What
I had seen, in my interpretation of it, a
Zeppelin-it was a large illuminated
cigar~shaped object. In fact what I was
looking at was the lenticular shape that
the perspective of a searchlight thrown
· on to a cloud~base makes, and I was
interpreting it as a Zeppelin and I was
telling my parents how many Zeppelins
I had seen.
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undohgs and this fits
1 very c ose y Wit w 1at t e noble Lord,
Lord Davies of Leek, was saying about
Macbeth's dagger and the laser holeo~
graphic reconstruction of things which
really are not there. What sort of an
interpretation would somebody who had
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never read about these or read about them
put upon sundogs? Most people have
not seen them or read a bout them. I
wa:; fortunate enough to liave read about
them and to have known the explanation
before 1 saw the first.
When you look at a cloud with drops
of water, you are looking at a diffuse
reflection of the ~un but if instead of
there being drops of water in the cloud
there are drops c·f ice, .and if they were
form.:d unJer meteorological conditions
where all the facets of the crystals ha ppcn
to be pnrallcl as they f::;_ll through a rising
stream so that they arc remaining roughly
stationary, the effect is of a rather dilute
mirror, if one can so describe it. Jf the
sun is up there, you see it actually reflected
in this imaginary mirror down through
the cloud, and one does not exnect to
1 see the sun looking down in this direction.
Still less does one expect to perceive it
travelling along beside one. Furthermore,
one is not accustomed to focusing one~s
eyes on infinity in that particular direr:tion.
The only times it would be appropriate
to do so would be if you were standing
on top of a skyscraper where the vanishing
point would be down here instead of over
there, and it makes you rather dizzy.
Seeing a sky dog is a rather uncanny
sort of phenomenon. You cannot focus
on it properly; it does not seem to be
an~where in particular. 1t is flying along
beside you-and what sort of terms would
a person, who had never seen it bl!fore
or read r. bout it, report it in? I think that
they \vould be rather bewildered. They
might report it just as a child would
report the vision of an angel as having
human form and feathery ·,vings. So it
might easily be reponed as anything that
they had read about.
I now come to the green flash. I was
about 20 and a student, and there was
a controversy in the p:ges of The Times
and in the correspondence columns of
Nature about the green flash. What is
it? Under certain rather rare atmospheric
conditions, the last glim of the setting
sun suddenly flashes brilliant emerald
green. When I was a student 50 years
ago, this phenomenon· v:as not realiy
established. It was possible to have a
controversy as to whether there was
such a phenomenon. People wrote to
The Times saying that they had seen it.
I remember one man who said that he
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