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MOD file DEFE 24/2032/1

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This Ministry of Defence file, released through The National Archives and published by The Black Vault, holds the MOD's 2002 handling of Dr David Clarke's requests for UFO documents under the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information. It includes the MOD's 9 December 2002 reply, which covered reports from 1976, 1980, 1993 and 1996 and charged £260. It also contains internal emails and file requisitions, plus Foreign Office and United Nations papers from 1978 on Grenada's proposal for UFO research.

  • p. 6 …head of S4(Air), with contributions from RAF Ops (GE)2 and DI55 for reference by…
  • p. 7 Copies of report made by RAF Fylingdales, North Yorkshire, of unidentified objects tracked by the BMEWS…
  • p. 41 …encourage informal links between, for example, the RAF and the very worthy groups who believe differently…
  • p. 48 …last week, one of our particularly important RAF stations had anything: to say about them. this…
  • p. 68 …1969, was we do know that an RAF Vulcan bomber very substantial and detailed and it…
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  • p. 106 '--) PS/USofS(RAF)(Through DUS(Air) As stated in the Background Note to the Earl of…
  • p. 130 …chboa~d) Group Captain Yctn:.a.n (RAF) Air J>.ttncho Britich Embaosy }5o Rue du…
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  • p. 136 …The official transcript has been provided by the RAF Air Attache ill Paris, who has also…
  • p. 152 !REDACTION ON ORIGINAL DOCUMENT I .S/USofS(RAF)(Through DUS(Air) , As stated in the Background…
  • p. 182 …official transcript has been provided by the RAF Air Attache · >:·1 ';:~ ill' Paris who has also…
  • p. 186 …ACS(G)(RAF) UFOs - DEBATE IN THE LORDS I enclose a first draft of a proposed…
  • p. 189 …bu·t we do know that an RAF Vulcan bomber on ~ low flying mission passed the…
  • p. 195 ~· --,------ DRAFT • •• M - PSLUSofS(RAF) through DUS(Air) and PS/USofS(?AF) Copies to: PS/CS{RAF…
  • p. 197 …PS/CS(RAF) ACS(G)(RAF) DI55 -.Mr Asteraki Ops(GE)2b(RAF) Head of. S4…
  • p. 199 …and the draft speech to D?.R(RAF) with the request that he pass his copy…
  • p. 202 …PS/US of S (RAF) PSICS(RAF) PSIDUS(Alr) ACS (G) ( RAF) --7=' DI 55 (Mr…
  • p. 203 …minute and the draft speech to DPR(RAF) with // the request that he pass his copy…
  • p. 205 …6 & M . !REDACTION ()11:1 ORIGINAL DOCUMENT I DRAFT PS.{p:s_C!.f'S ( RAF…
  • p. 207 …PS/CS(RAF) ACS(G)(RAF. DI55 - I"'r Ops( GE)2b( . Head of. S4(Air…
  • p. 208 …ACS(G)(RAF) !REDACTION ON ORIGINAL DOCUMENT I UFOs - DEBATE IN THE LORDS I enclose a…
  • p. 211 …bu·t we do know that an RAF Vulcan bomber on ~ low flying mission passed the…
  • p. 222 …TO \.JHOM REPORTED None RAF Ba.JlMER, RAF STAXTON WOLDl UK R.A:OO, AN ·n…
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  • p. 231 …INFO RAF LEUCHARS HODUK_ "- HODUK AIR HQSTC- UKRAOC ' U-N C L A S S. I…
  • p. 232 …1 DO Ops(GE)(RAF) 1 D I 55 8 ( S I C·) 2 DSTI 1…
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  • p. 242 …CXJ J4CS(P) DO O;:,s(~E)(RAF) D I 5 58 ( S 1C) CSTI 1…
  • p. 244 …FROi'l RAF BIN2P.OO!< 1\.1 l'iODUK A 1 Fl. U· ··: C L A…
  • p. 247 …IN REPLY) FOR THE ATTENTION OF AFOR(RAF) UFO REPORT A. 26 SEP-0030 'HOURS-5…
  • p. 248 …1 · ACS( P) - 1 DO Ops(qE)(RAF) 1 DI 55B(SIC-) 2 DSTI 1 D…
  • p. 251 : j ·,~. --:r OC RAF Police F1t Sir, PoSSIBLE. UFO SIGHTINGS UNCLASSIFIED POLICE IN CONFIDENCE RAF Police…
  • p. 252 …At 0142 hours, I informed RAF West Drayton, Lt Cdr incident, and he confirmed that there…
  • p. 253 . .. e RAF POLICE SITUATION REPORT.30-31 MAR 93. DOBNO 10211193 DATEi TiME 31M~93 0115…
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  • p. 278 CWD151 31/1002 090C1243 FOR CAB ROUTINE 310730Z MAR 93 FROM RAF WEST DRAYTON U N…
  • p. 279 CAB092 31/1001 090C1238 FOF< CAB ROUTINE 310725Z MAR 93 FROM RAF WEST DRAYTON TO 1…
  • p. 304 …To his knowledge there had not been any flyovers by RAF, NATO or other aircraft and…
  • p. 307 …Bentwaters Air Base jointly manned by the RAF and USAF. Around the time of the alleged…
  • p. 313 …I have attached the report made by a Corporal at RAF Cosford, together with three of…
  • p. 319 ... ~~ . ') COS/87/2/Sy !REDACTION ON ORIGINAL DOCUMENT I AAF Police Flight RAF Cosford Wolverhampton West…
  • p. 320 …At 0142 hours, I informed RAF West Drayton, lt Cdr- ~f the incident, and he confirmed…
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  • p. 341 …FOR CAB ROUTINE 310720Z MAR 93 FROM RAF WEST DRAYTON TO MODUK AIR U N C…
  • p. 343 …FOR CAB ROUTINE 010850Z APR 93 FROM RAF WEST DRAYTON TO MODUK AIR U N C…
  • p. 344 …REPORTED 1·0 RAF CHIVENOR OPERATIONS ALSO SEEN Bi POLICE PAfROL PASSING BURROWS IN CAR PAGE…
  • p. 345 …FOR CAB ROUTINE 311050Z MAR 93 FROM RAF WEST DRAYTON TO MODUK AIR U N C…
  • p. 346 …FOR CAB ROUTINE 310730Z MAR 93 FROM RAF WEST DRAYTON TO MODUK AIR U N C…
  • p. 372 …To his knowledge there had not been any flyovers by RAF, NATO or other ·. t aircraft…
  • p. 375 …Bentwaters Air Base jointly manned by the RAF and USAF. Around the time of tfre alleged…
  • p. 381 …I have attached the report made by a Corporal at RAF Cosford, together with three of…
  • p. 394 …The lights observed from Skegness were captured on video which is being sent to RAF Neatishead…
  • p. 397 …The MRCC, unaware of any maritime activity, asked the Air Rescue Coordination centre (ARCC) at RAF…
  • p. 398 …scramble a Quick Reaction Alert aircraft from RAF Leuchars to investigate either the permanent echo or…
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1287 Unide11ti/ied [LORDS] Flying Objects 1288
[Lord Gainford.] and who have not yet disappeared from
receive every possible encouragement to the scene who could make valuable use
take part in many debates in the future. of their past experience in establishing
My main contribution to this debate is to centres in various districts throughout the
assure the noble Earl, Lord Clancarty, of country-and I do not suggest that we
any support that I can give. If we are start opening up the old observer posts
going to have a study group in your in the countryside-to receive and analyse
Lordships' House I shall be glad to be a any reported sightings from the public.
volunteer to take part whenever I h:we the Such people with a sense of responsibility
opportunity. I also thank him and others could, with a little experience, sift the
for initiating this debate, and for the genuine reports from the false.
pleasure of having such a refreshing subject
to discuss in the midst of the present Suggesting that such an organisation
period of crices and strikes. be set up, particularly at times like these,
can naturally give rise to a protest about
I am the lOth person to speak in this the waste of public money; but volunteers
debate. I have noticed that so far none of who might be willing to work for a few
your Lordships have actually reporteJ a hours are quite prepared to do it for very
sighting, so here goes! I am going to stick small remuneration, if any at all. 1 have
my neck out, open my big mouth and mentioned the Civil Defence Service, and
trust I am not going to put my foot in it! I did not know whether or not I should
I saw a UFO a little while ago. It was on declare an interest, but I was a member of
31st December about 8 p.m. All right, it during the 'sixties ancl I was one of
my Lords, have a good laugh, it was many who were bitterly disappointed when
Hogmanay! Up in Argyll it was a New it had to go into abeyance. I recall
Year's Eve party and somebody said there particularly the conrradeship and the
was something funny f!yi11g across the sky. sense that we were doing a useful job for
Fifteen of us came out to have a look, the community.
including some children. They had been
drinking soft drinks anyway! The object If I hau the time and opportunity, I
was like a bright white ball with a iouch I should enjoy volunteering for working
of red followed by a white cone. In fact in a UFO information centre, if that
the whole object had the appearance of a ·1 might be a suggested name for the
small comet. It was heading eastwards organisation that would be required. I
and seemed rather low in the sky, passing I shall be interested to hear the surnmings
up in this debate. I can give no explana-
over the hills between Loch Sweyne and tion why there should be these phenomena
Loch Fyne. The position from which we
viewed it was outside the village of Tay- concentr::~ted within p2.rticularly the past
32 years as was confirmed by the nob1e
vallich in Argyllshire on the West coast Earl, Lord Clancarty, and these flying
of Scotland about the same latitude as saucers in the year 1947 \Vhen the phrase
Glasgow. was coined; but I would just accentuate
As the ball disappeared into the distance
it seemed to divide into two parts. It
may have been a comet or a meteorite,
but I should like to know what it really
was. It would have been very beneficial
if there had been some sort of centre to
which I could \Vrite or telephone to report
such an incident. No doubt setting up
such an organisation would be an invita-
tion to pranks, but for starting such a
centre I suggest that volunteers could
readily be found from the ranks of the
former Civil Defence Service and/or the
Royal Observer Corps. The Royal Ob-
server Corps still exists but it has literally,
if not metaphorically, gone underground
where it is preparing to report and advise
on nuclear fallout in the case of war.
But there are many who used to serve it
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what has been said before and add that
if they are man-made or some astronomical
feature, and provided there is no risk of
any security breach, then the public have
a righ.t to know about them.
9.20 p.m.
The Earl of HALSBURY: My Lords,
in common with everyone else who has
spoken, I should like to thank the noble
Earl, Lord Clancarty, for giving us an
opportunity to have, as it were, a scamper
over the course and exchange views on
this very interesting and controversial
topic. At the same time, I should like
to congratu1ate the noble Viscount O!l
his maiden speech, which was obviously
a very well thought out and well assemble
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