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MOD file DEFE 24/2032/1

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This Ministry of Defence file, released through The National Archives and published by The Black Vault, holds the MOD's 2002 handling of Dr David Clarke's requests for UFO documents under the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information. It includes the MOD's 9 December 2002 reply, which covered reports from 1976, 1980, 1993 and 1996 and charged £260. It also contains internal emails and file requisitions, plus Foreign Office and United Nations papers from 1978 on Grenada's proposal for UFO research.

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should these n·cn. of law enforc12mcnt :md 1 Every sighting and landing must be
defence lie? Of <.:.Jmse, they d.id n:n lie. thoroughly inves1igated by the bureau,
Why should t.h~y; cspeci:dly ns in t!lis c::sc in co-c;peration \\·:th the · police, the
their sighting V<'S cacked lip by JJ",cn from Royal Air Force, the radar people an3
a nearby r:.dar W1tion wi:o s:.:w it, too. the British-based UFO investigators.
Each year there arc many sightii:gs of
UF.Os throughout the world. Some of
them are very close at hand, while others
arc not, but alw<.ys the ef:'"'c! upo;1 those
who s~e them is one of concern; 2i1d yet
this very point is ignord and ridiculed
by most Go\'crnmcnts right around the
globe. In the Un.;l.ed ~.:.ir.g.G·):l1's c::tse,
those who report ~.ee:ng urcs arc taken
to be misinformed, misguided and raiher
below par in inteliig~nce. If this is so,
why has some of nw information on this
subject been give::; to me by the
Ministry of Technology? Why should
this Ministry waste its time gathering
false inf~.mnation? Of course:, it is not
false information: it is d:1ta reportd by
civil and Air For::c pilots, police1:1en,
sailors and members of the general
public who have all had personal ex-
perience which has intrigued and/or
frightened them.
l\Jy Lords, what are UFOs? I do not
kr.ow; and nor, 3eemingly, do some
Governments: but these machines do exist
in one form or another, abstract or solid,
and they do trawl at stunning speeds
which seem to defv oroved natural
physics. Let the U1~ited Kingdom he
told by Her Ma._;esty's Government the
real details on UFOs so far as they kno.v
them, for by continu~d silence the posijoa
only becomes worse. Only a few \'/eeks
ago a UFO was seen near Kingussie, in
the Highlands, and a few acres of Ashdown
Forest were burned by another one. Is it
safe to go on ignoring these appearances?
Who is to knO\V where they come from?
But come they have. Jf we accept, then,
that UFOs exist, we must next wonder
how they operate. Tbeir motive power
would be of huge help to our transport and
industrial life, for they apparently fly
without wings at ·varying speeds from
dead-slow to incredible onl!s, and even
hover silently. This kind of information
is above p1:ice, and therefore we as a
country should make every effort to collect
every scrap of information that we can.
I therefore ask this Government to make
the study of UFOs respectable by setting
up a bureau that can be approached by all
and sundry wiihout any red tape or
opposition, in an attempt to clear the air.
The ncble Lord, Lord Strabolgi, who
is to wid up this debate, is no doubt
sympathetic to the reasons for these
t.peeches, for it has become patently
obvious to a great many people that this
subjec1 has got to the pc,int when Govem-
mcm:ll c.xplanr.tio:1s ;;1U~t be forthcoming.
A gr.::atcr measure of open govermncnt is
long overd!le, and b_ringing the UFO saga
into the realm of respectability would
be cne way of achieving this, in part .
I S'.tspcct that the British Government do
have a Department studyhg UFO sigbt-
ings, for why else should they bother to go
to such trOlible to publicly debunk reportd
ones if they are of no interest ~o them?
Quite apart from the fact that the Govern-
ment hav:! not admitt::d to the existence
of UFOs, these machi;-:es are potentiaily
dangerous. They give off blinding light,
crippling rays and sometimes beams that
immobilise humans; they start forest fires,
eradicate crops and cause great distress
to animals. If the British population \Vas
aware of this, they could sometimes tc.kc
precautio!lS. UFOs have been with us
for maay generations, so is it not about
time that we ofrkially recognised their
existence ar:.d treated r~ports as less of a
hot poU;to than hitherto?
Bcfor;:: the noble Earl, Lord Halsbvry,
takes me to task once again on the subject
of' sonk boon1s, I haYe one suggested
answer to the que:;tion why these high-
speed UFOs do not produce sonic booms.
It is thought that these cmft caa produce a
near vacuum envelope around themselves,
which in turn would allow them virtually
tmlimited speed because they would thus
be free of nearly ail normal resistance,
as they would be flying within it. Not
being a scientist, I cannot enlarge upo_n
this explanation, but I hope it is of some
assistance to the noble E~rl.
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Lord GAINFORD: My Lords, first
may I add my congratuJat!ons to my noble
friend Lord Oxfuird for his brilliant
maiden speech. I hope t11at we are going
to hear hir;1 many times again because it is
quite obvious from what we have heard
from him this evening that he Is going to
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