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MOD file DEFE 24/2032/1

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This Ministry of Defence file, released through The National Archives and published by The Black Vault, holds the MOD's 2002 handling of Dr David Clarke's requests for UFO documents under the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information. It includes the MOD's 9 December 2002 reply, which covered reports from 1976, 1980, 1993 and 1996 and charged £260. It also contains internal emails and file requisitions, plus Foreign Office and United Nations papers from 1978 on Grenada's proposal for UFO research.

  • p. 6 …head of S4(Air), with contributions from RAF Ops (GE)2 and DI55 for reference by…
  • p. 7 Copies of report made by RAF Fylingdales, North Yorkshire, of unidentified objects tracked by the BMEWS…
  • p. 41 …encourage informal links between, for example, the RAF and the very worthy groups who believe differently…
  • p. 48 …last week, one of our particularly important RAF stations had anything: to say about them. this…
  • p. 68 …1969, was we do know that an RAF Vulcan bomber very substantial and detailed and it…
  • p. 74 …Y ..... ~ .... ."..:.:!....!.)::•.. ;~ . --~-- -M2 APS/US of S(RAF) L. The Foreign Office might have given us some…
  • p. 84 …DOCUME' ............... ~.................-:.. ···~-~~;; ~ , ·' . ·-.,.,_~ Jg . :'~U --- ~-- - -~-- APS/US of S(RAF) .,. The Foreign Office might have given us some…
  • p. 106 '--) PS/USofS(RAF)(Through DUS(Air) As stated in the Background Note to the Earl of…
  • p. 130 …chboa~d) Group Captain Yctn:.a.n (RAF) Air J>.ttncho Britich Embaosy }5o Rue du…
  • p. 133 …F~rguson) Parliamentary Clerk 218 6312 (!;; .{~~· ---~-\ , ·-... -x~ \ '~ ( \ US of S (RAF)'s ~ \'::::::.\4 .' __) PRIVAT~ OFH.:c…
  • p. 136 …The official transcript has been provided by the RAF Air Attache ill Paris, who has also…
  • p. 152 !REDACTION ON ORIGINAL DOCUMENT I .S/USofS(RAF)(Through DUS(Air) , As stated in the Background…
  • p. 182 …official transcript has been provided by the RAF Air Attache · >:·1 ';:~ ill' Paris who has also…
  • p. 186 …ACS(G)(RAF) UFOs - DEBATE IN THE LORDS I enclose a first draft of a proposed…
  • p. 189 …bu·t we do know that an RAF Vulcan bomber on ~ low flying mission passed the…
  • p. 195 ~· --,------ DRAFT • •• M - PSLUSofS(RAF) through DUS(Air) and PS/USofS(?AF) Copies to: PS/CS{RAF…
  • p. 197 …PS/CS(RAF) ACS(G)(RAF) DI55 -.Mr Asteraki Ops(GE)2b(RAF) Head of. S4…
  • p. 199 …and the draft speech to D?.R(RAF) with the request that he pass his copy…
  • p. 202 …PS/US of S (RAF) PSICS(RAF) PSIDUS(Alr) ACS (G) ( RAF) --7=' DI 55 (Mr…
  • p. 203 …minute and the draft speech to DPR(RAF) with // the request that he pass his copy…
  • p. 205 …6 & M . !REDACTION ()11:1 ORIGINAL DOCUMENT I DRAFT PS.{p:s_C!.f'S ( RAF…
  • p. 207 …PS/CS(RAF) ACS(G)(RAF. DI55 - I"'r Ops( GE)2b( . Head of. S4(Air…
  • p. 208 …ACS(G)(RAF) !REDACTION ON ORIGINAL DOCUMENT I UFOs - DEBATE IN THE LORDS I enclose a…
  • p. 211 …bu·t we do know that an RAF Vulcan bomber on ~ low flying mission passed the…
  • p. 222 …TO \.JHOM REPORTED None RAF Ba.JlMER, RAF STAXTON WOLDl UK R.A:OO, AN ·n…
  • p. 225 …c· 1 DG Ops(QE)(RAF),... .-. ·.r ·1 DI 55B(SIC)....., ~· . . cr.. '1 2 DSTI c…
  • p. 226 …DO O;jS(~E)(RAF) DI 55B(SIC) CST 1 1 DSC (AFDO)· ) f (· ( lfir1 ~11\: ( ( ( ( ( (
  • p. 231 …INFO RAF LEUCHARS HODUK_ "- HODUK AIR HQSTC- UKRAOC ' U-N C L A S S. I…
  • p. 232 …1 DO Ops(GE)(RAF) 1 D I 55 8 ( S I C·) 2 DSTI 1…
  • p. 241 …ACS(P) eYe 1 DG Ops(~E)(RAF) ("'It 1.f v ... ·1 DI 55B(SIC…
  • p. 242 …CXJ J4CS(P) DO O;:,s(~E)(RAF) D I 5 58 ( S 1C) CSTI 1…
  • p. 244 …FROi'l RAF BIN2P.OO!< 1\.1 l'iODUK A 1 Fl. U· ··: C L A…
  • p. 247 …IN REPLY) FOR THE ATTENTION OF AFOR(RAF) UFO REPORT A. 26 SEP-0030 'HOURS-5…
  • p. 248 …1 · ACS( P) - 1 DO Ops(qE)(RAF) 1 DI 55B(SIC-) 2 DSTI 1 D…
  • p. 251 : j ·,~. --:r OC RAF Police F1t Sir, PoSSIBLE. UFO SIGHTINGS UNCLASSIFIED POLICE IN CONFIDENCE RAF Police…
  • p. 252 …At 0142 hours, I informed RAF West Drayton, Lt Cdr incident, and he confirmed that there…
  • p. 253 . .. e RAF POLICE SITUATION REPORT.30-31 MAR 93. DOBNO 10211193 DATEi TiME 31M~93 0115…
  • p. 273 . ·.-···· CWD148 31/0959 090C1185 FOR CAB ROUTINE 310720Z MAR 93 FROM RAF WEST DRAYTON TO MODUK…
  • p. 275 CWD153 01/1325 091C1129 FOR CAB ROUTINE 010850Z APR 93 FROM RAF WEST DRAYTON TO I…
  • p. 276 ' •' .,.·.""''"'I::..;:/, ::..... .• -·~·~, ·~·-~~··.,,:..~ ....... ·~.:.,-:.:- .':!t.""f""...,....,~~""~""'·~"-~'~~. • \ CAB123 31/1257 090C2197 FOR Cf.iB ROUTINE 311220Z MAR 93 FROM RAF…
  • p. 277 CWD203 31/1158 090C1975 FOR CAB ROUTINE 311050Z MAR 93 FROM RAF WEST DRAYTON TO I…
  • p. 278 CWD151 31/1002 090C1243 FOR CAB ROUTINE 310730Z MAR 93 FROM RAF WEST DRAYTON U N…
  • p. 279 CAB092 31/1001 090C1238 FOF< CAB ROUTINE 310725Z MAR 93 FROM RAF WEST DRAYTON TO 1…
  • p. 304 …To his knowledge there had not been any flyovers by RAF, NATO or other aircraft and…
  • p. 307 …Bentwaters Air Base jointly manned by the RAF and USAF. Around the time of the alleged…
  • p. 313 …I have attached the report made by a Corporal at RAF Cosford, together with three of…
  • p. 319 ... ~~ . ') COS/87/2/Sy !REDACTION ON ORIGINAL DOCUMENT I AAF Police Flight RAF Cosford Wolverhampton West…
  • p. 320 …At 0142 hours, I informed RAF West Drayton, lt Cdr- ~f the incident, and he confirmed…
  • p. 336 •.· ;;. '~' . .:; ······ ·e..-,-----------.-1------~-~:.,,:-:-.__ :,~:,...~..~\:;-.. :~,.".,"~:~-r,,·,,.:· I K. !;e~~o=t~)ported (Police, m~lit~ry, I (~~.tkJ RAF…
  • p. 341 …FOR CAB ROUTINE 310720Z MAR 93 FROM RAF WEST DRAYTON TO MODUK AIR U N C…
  • p. 343 …FOR CAB ROUTINE 010850Z APR 93 FROM RAF WEST DRAYTON TO MODUK AIR U N C…
  • p. 344 …REPORTED 1·0 RAF CHIVENOR OPERATIONS ALSO SEEN Bi POLICE PAfROL PASSING BURROWS IN CAR PAGE…
  • p. 345 …FOR CAB ROUTINE 311050Z MAR 93 FROM RAF WEST DRAYTON TO MODUK AIR U N C…
  • p. 346 …FOR CAB ROUTINE 310730Z MAR 93 FROM RAF WEST DRAYTON TO MODUK AIR U N C…
  • p. 372 …To his knowledge there had not been any flyovers by RAF, NATO or other ·. t aircraft…
  • p. 375 …Bentwaters Air Base jointly manned by the RAF and USAF. Around the time of tfre alleged…
  • p. 381 …I have attached the report made by a Corporal at RAF Cosford, together with three of…
  • p. 394 …The lights observed from Skegness were captured on video which is being sent to RAF Neatishead…
  • p. 397 …The MRCC, unaware of any maritime activity, asked the Air Rescue Coordination centre (ARCC) at RAF…
  • p. 398 …scramble a Quick Reaction Alert aircraft from RAF Leuchars to investigate either the permanent echo or…
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extra-tcrrestnal possibilities do not seem
to be fcasibk because of the very eccentric Ipaths which the objects, or iights, which
were seen seem to have taken. But if they I
are terrestrial phenomena, we ought to be
able to identify them.
I believe that any dispassionate investi-
gation, such as I understand the noble
Earl, Lord Clancarty, would wish to have,
could not ignore the possibility of the
phenomena having their origins outside
the earth and perhaps outside the solar
system. Ju~t as meteorites are chance
material projectiles originating in the solar
system, may there not be random matter
of a ditTerent character-perhaps a
luminous but insubstantial character-
that in certain circumstances becomes
visible. and attracted to our area? I
certainly should be readier to accept some
explanation in terms of what I might call
the atsronomical phenomena than ships
from outer space. It would, I suppose,
be foolish to deny that possibility, but as
an explanation of phenomena-and I
think that the noble Lord, Lord Gladwyn,
exposed this-it is surely a very long shot
indeed.
If we are to conduct any dispassionate
inquiry-and I think that we should-we
must listen to the proponents of what one
might call the Star Trek view. It can
be argued, not unreasonably, that we in
our humble way are probing nearby solar
space with our Venus and Jupiter and other
vehicular probes. \Ve have ventured on to
the Moon. ls it not presumptuous, the
argument goes, to suppose that elsewhere
in space creatures more advanced than us
are probing into our space, probing with
means now occasionally visible to us,
using their own RPVs, controlled from
stations light years away, rather on the
lines which the noble Earl, Lord Kimberley,
mentioned? It is a possibility which we
must be prepared to consider. It is a
possibility, though not many of us, I feel,
would call it a probability.
But if we do have a study of UFOs,
as the noble Earl desires, we could not
exclude the possibility of extra-terrestrial
intelligences from our consideration. This
quotation has been given twice this
evening, as well as a dozen times outside
this House in this connection, but,
" There are more things in Heaven and Earth,
Horatio",
Hamlet said,
"than are drearnt of in your philosophy".
And Heaven, my Lords, has always
offered us more pos,ibilities than earth.
Although I remain sceptical of intelligent
invasion from outer space, 1 recall the
dictum of the late Mr. Sherlock Holmes
when he was investigating the curious
matter of the Sign of Four:
" When you have diminated the impossible,
whatever remaim, however improbable, must be
the truth".
The desirability of getting mtional ancl
acceptable expianations for the odd
phenomena which arc being r.;:ported
-even if, like some other para-normal
phenomena, they are subjective--in my
opinion is not, or should not be, merely
to satisfy our curiosity. Here I am
coming from rather a different angle to
something which was discussed in greater
depth by the right reverend Prelate the
Bishop of Norwich.
There is a social danger, in my view,
in leaving people in ignorance of the
origins of these phenomena. I have
recently learned from a number of
sources that there have grown up. in
North America particularly, many groups
and cults whose attitudes arc based on
beliefs that UFOs are influential outer-
spatial manifestations interested in this
earth. In some cases these groups arc
looking to outer space for Man's salvation.
Jf this is right, !t is rather disturbing.
1. find, too, that in this country there
are groups interested, other than purely
scientifically, in the UFO phenomena.
I had a letter--and I think that other
noble Lords may have had the same letter
--earlier this week from an ecumenical
Christian group which believes, among
other things, that UFOs menace the
spiritual health of the nation; that they
are anti-Christian and that information
exists about them which is being withheld.
It seems to me that this association of
UFOs with mysticism and religion makes
explanation of the true origins of the
phenomena a matter of great importance
and of some urgency. The sooner that
each reported sighting or landing is
satisfactorily explained, the better. It
is no good just laughing them off or trying
to laugh them ofr; we must seek the truth
and tell it.
My Lords, I remain sceptical, perhaps
more sceptical than anyone who has
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