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MOD file DEFE 24/2032/1

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This Ministry of Defence file, released through The National Archives and published by The Black Vault, holds the MOD's 2002 handling of Dr David Clarke's requests for UFO documents under the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information. It includes the MOD's 9 December 2002 reply, which covered reports from 1976, 1980, 1993 and 1996 and charged £260. It also contains internal emails and file requisitions, plus Foreign Office and United Nations papers from 1978 on Grenada's proposal for UFO research.

  • p. 40 …But, unlike with the aircraft reported by the noble Earl, I have never seen one. I…
  • p. 43 …the United States of America which has never been made known to the public and even…
  • p. 45 …will be, Yes, and yet they have never seen one. We are asking you to believe…
  • p. 46 …selfish- ness and tendency to panic as never before since the days of the Crusades. The…
  • p. 47 …I never reached that standard of mathematics. However I know that Einstein believed that ele~tro…
  • p. 51 …The difficulty about such an explanation is that they never seem to come into actual contact…
  • p. 53 …some of the things he told us. Never- theless, I feel that it is of immense…
  • p. 58 …What sort of an interpretation would somebody who had H.L.8 Q never read about…
  • p. 59 …l should lib:1 have never seen ball lightning, but the 1 to go into the…
  • p. 60 …She said "I don't \Vant to, because it will spoil it all." They said " Never…
  • p. 62 …Of ;orts of sightings ~never it has been n·estigation they tttral phenomena pet to say…
  • p. 67 …1308 fro,m h;m ag~;n ~n many other occ";?"'· ' Why have they never tded…
  • p. 112 ..~ say that in the Air Force, for tne moment, they have never seemed to come directly…
  • p. 131 …informed that 11so far the military have never fonnd an-ything of D.nt1tjgressive nature fro…
  • p. 161 …Air Force, for tile moment, they have never seemed to come directly under air defence. ' . I…
  • p. 177 …informed that 11so far the military have never found anything of an~~gressive nature from the…
  • p. 187 …But it would be a brave man who said there could never, ever,be manned inter…
  • p. 190 …a cloud descended and picked up ~he regiment and it was never heard of again ••••••• (checking…
  • p. 192 …Let me assure this House that Her Majesty's Government has never been approached by people…
  • p. 209 …But it would be a brave man who said there could never, ever,be manned inter…
  • p. 212 …a cl6ud descended and picked up :the regiment and it was never heard of again ••••••• (checking…
  • p. 214 …Let me assure this Rouse that Her Majesty's Government has never been approached by people…
  • p. 300 …despite agreeing to complete a report form, this has never been returned - I wonder why? (13)
  • p. 320 …Mrllllllll stated that he had been a Met Officer for 8 years and had never~nything…
  • p. 368 …despite agreeing to complete a report form, this has never been returned - I wonder why? (13)
  • p. 399 …Significantly, the plot was never present on radar displays from the NATS sensors at Cromer and…
  • p. 417 …RAF Northwood was never involved in this event. confusion has arisen because Gt Yarmouth coastguard, referred…
  • p. 432 …Significantly, the plot was never present on radar displays from the NATS sensors at Cromer and…
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To: Dl ISEC SECT AD
Subject: FW: Code of Practice Request
I sent the message below
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-----Original Message-----
From: DAS-LA-Ops+Po11
Sent: 03 September 2002 10:22
To: 01 ISEC SEC4
Subject: Code of Practice Request
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and have had an out of office reply. I need to answer this request
you could find someone else to deal with it in~nce. I am
I have received a request for some more documents under the Code of Practice on Access to Gover
Information, from Dr Clarke who you may remember recently published a book about MOD Policy on
since 1947.
One of the five sets of documents he has asked for is as follows;
"Copies of UFO reports made in the early hours of 30/31 March 1993 by RAF gnd meteorological office
personnel and by members of the public, from a number of locations including RAF Cosford and RAF
Shawbury. In addition copies of assessment made".
We have a file on these events, but I know DIS also have a file D/DI55/108/15/2 Part 1 - Cosford Incident.
DG Info tell me that unless the person requesting the information specifically says "records held by DAS" a
request should be taken to mean a request to MOD and should include any material known to be held by any
branch. We will, therefore, need to include your file in this request.
Under the Code, Dr Clarke has been charged for his previous requests requiring more than four hours work
and he has asked that before we proceed with this request, we provide an estimate of the time and cost of
providing this information. The way we ususally estimate this is the number of enclosures
on the file X 2 minutes per enclosure to search, photocopy any relevant papers, remove any personal data
(under the Data Protection Act) and anything else which needs to be removed under an exemption of the
Code, and photocopy again. Dr Clarke is entitled to the first four hours work free and every following hour
(or part of) is charged at £15 per hour.
Based on the above, I would be grateful if you could give me an estimate of the time it would take for DI
staff to search the above mentioned file and providing the information requested by Dr Clarke. You do not
need to worry about the cost because I will calculate that when I have assessed his whole request.
I need to answer Dr Clarkes letter by 19th September, but I will be on leave from the 16th, so would
appreciate a reply by 9 September if possible. If you have any questions, please give me a call.
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