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MOD file DEFE 24/2032/1

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This Ministry of Defence file, released through The National Archives and published by The Black Vault, holds the MOD's 2002 handling of Dr David Clarke's requests for UFO documents under the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information. It includes the MOD's 9 December 2002 reply, which covered reports from 1976, 1980, 1993 and 1996 and charged £260. It also contains internal emails and file requisitions, plus Foreign Office and United Nations papers from 1978 on Grenada's proposal for UFO research.

  • p. 40 …But, unlike with the aircraft reported by the noble Earl, I have never seen one. I…
  • p. 43 …the United States of America which has never been made known to the public and even…
  • p. 45 …will be, Yes, and yet they have never seen one. We are asking you to believe…
  • p. 46 …selfish- ness and tendency to panic as never before since the days of the Crusades. The…
  • p. 47 …I never reached that standard of mathematics. However I know that Einstein believed that ele~tro…
  • p. 51 …The difficulty about such an explanation is that they never seem to come into actual contact…
  • p. 53 …some of the things he told us. Never- theless, I feel that it is of immense…
  • p. 58 …What sort of an interpretation would somebody who had H.L.8 Q never read about…
  • p. 59 …l should lib:1 have never seen ball lightning, but the 1 to go into the…
  • p. 60 …She said "I don't \Vant to, because it will spoil it all." They said " Never…
  • p. 62 …Of ;orts of sightings ~never it has been n·estigation they tttral phenomena pet to say…
  • p. 67 …1308 fro,m h;m ag~;n ~n many other occ";?"'· ' Why have they never tded…
  • p. 112 ..~ say that in the Air Force, for tne moment, they have never seemed to come directly…
  • p. 131 …informed that 11so far the military have never fonnd an-ything of D.nt1tjgressive nature fro…
  • p. 161 …Air Force, for tile moment, they have never seemed to come directly under air defence. ' . I…
  • p. 177 …informed that 11so far the military have never found anything of an~~gressive nature from the…
  • p. 187 …But it would be a brave man who said there could never, ever,be manned inter…
  • p. 190 …a cloud descended and picked up ~he regiment and it was never heard of again ••••••• (checking…
  • p. 192 …Let me assure this House that Her Majesty's Government has never been approached by people…
  • p. 209 …But it would be a brave man who said there could never, ever,be manned inter…
  • p. 212 …a cl6ud descended and picked up :the regiment and it was never heard of again ••••••• (checking…
  • p. 214 …Let me assure this Rouse that Her Majesty's Government has never been approached by people…
  • p. 300 …despite agreeing to complete a report form, this has never been returned - I wonder why? (13)
  • p. 320 …Mrllllllll stated that he had been a Met Officer for 8 years and had never~nything…
  • p. 368 …despite agreeing to complete a report form, this has never been returned - I wonder why? (13)
  • p. 399 …Significantly, the plot was never present on radar displays from the NATS sensors at Cromer and…
  • p. 417 …RAF Northwood was never involved in this event. confusion has arisen because Gt Yarmouth coastguard, referred…
  • p. 432 …Significantly, the plot was never present on radar displays from the NATS sensors at Cromer and…
I note with surprise that the briefing files referred to above were among a batch destroyed
in 1990.
On 14 October 1998 in the House ofLords, Lord Hill-Norton asked the Minister of State
(MOD) to list the names and locations of MOD files relating to UFOs covering the period
1970-85. In reply, Lord Gilbert published a list (Hansard, House ofLords, 17 December
1998 Column W A178) of files which "have been identified and are earmarked for review
by MOD"; the list contains the following:
{) 1_ A --- ''D/DS8175/3 -one part~ UFO, Parliamentary Correspondence."
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' ~--~-~ J('V'"" c-U !J . 14) 0The name of this file appears similar, if not identical, to that of the two destroyed in 1990.
~c. However, it was listed as existing in the file store in 1998. Does it contain related
material and if so, could I make an application for a copy of this file?
J- On a related point, both DI 55 and RAF Ops(GE)2 contributed briefings to assist Lord
..,u." · Strabolgi's response in the House of Lords debate of 1979. Have these two MOD
~~ ~F'~,:o branches retained copies of their own individual contributions within their own file store?
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~.. J.,· 3. Copies of report made by RAF Fylingdales, North Yo~kshire, of unidentified
~·;}.Y' object/s tracked by the BMEWS on or about 13 September 1980, and
~ reported to MOD
Comments relevant to (1) above.
/Since you are reviewing file D/DS8/75/2/5 Part B which contains UFO reports from
V August-November, 1980 I wish to make a request. I understand an officer
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from the West Yorkshit'e Police (PC ofTodmorden) filed a report
concerning a UFO he observed in the of28 November 1980. Following
procedure, this should have been copied to MOD. If, during the course of your review, a
report or enclosure relating to this incident is located, I wish to apply for a copy of this
document.
4. Copies of UFO reports made in the early houn of 30/31 March 1993 by RAF
and meteorological office penonnel and by members of the public,
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rr~~.c: . The file reference D/Sec(AS)1217 UFOs, alleged UFO incident, 31st March 1993, appears
0° P"' 0 j to refer to the incident which is the subject of my request. I note that it contains 40
~u-).)y enclosures; I would of course be interested in any additional relevant information that
'1'>' 'I you may have located since your letter of 16 September.
5. Reports ~f •nusual phenomena on radar in the early houn of 5 October 1996
reported by the SOC Neatishead and UFO reports made by Lincolnshire
police and the S~egness coastguard.

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