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MOD file DEFE 24/2032/1

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This Ministry of Defence file, released through The National Archives and published by The Black Vault, holds the MOD's 2002 handling of Dr David Clarke's requests for UFO documents under the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information. It includes the MOD's 9 December 2002 reply, which covered reports from 1976, 1980, 1993 and 1996 and charged £260. It also contains internal emails and file requisitions, plus Foreign Office and United Nations papers from 1978 on Grenada's proposal for UFO research.

  • p. 40 …But, unlike with the aircraft reported by the noble Earl, I have never seen one. I…
  • p. 43 …the United States of America which has never been made known to the public and even…
  • p. 45 …will be, Yes, and yet they have never seen one. We are asking you to believe…
  • p. 46 …selfish- ness and tendency to panic as never before since the days of the Crusades. The…
  • p. 47 …I never reached that standard of mathematics. However I know that Einstein believed that ele~tro…
  • p. 51 …The difficulty about such an explanation is that they never seem to come into actual contact…
  • p. 53 …some of the things he told us. Never- theless, I feel that it is of immense…
  • p. 58 …What sort of an interpretation would somebody who had H.L.8 Q never read about…
  • p. 59 …l should lib:1 have never seen ball lightning, but the 1 to go into the…
  • p. 60 …She said "I don't \Vant to, because it will spoil it all." They said " Never…
  • p. 62 …Of ;orts of sightings ~never it has been n·estigation they tttral phenomena pet to say…
  • p. 67 …1308 fro,m h;m ag~;n ~n many other occ";?"'· ' Why have they never tded…
  • p. 112 ..~ say that in the Air Force, for tne moment, they have never seemed to come directly…
  • p. 131 …informed that 11so far the military have never fonnd an-ything of D.nt1tjgressive nature fro…
  • p. 161 …Air Force, for tile moment, they have never seemed to come directly under air defence. ' . I…
  • p. 177 …informed that 11so far the military have never found anything of an~~gressive nature from the…
  • p. 187 …But it would be a brave man who said there could never, ever,be manned inter…
  • p. 190 …a cloud descended and picked up ~he regiment and it was never heard of again ••••••• (checking…
  • p. 192 …Let me assure this House that Her Majesty's Government has never been approached by people…
  • p. 209 …But it would be a brave man who said there could never, ever,be manned inter…
  • p. 212 …a cl6ud descended and picked up :the regiment and it was never heard of again ••••••• (checking…
  • p. 214 …Let me assure this Rouse that Her Majesty's Government has never been approached by people…
  • p. 300 …despite agreeing to complete a report form, this has never been returned - I wonder why? (13)
  • p. 320 …Mrllllllll stated that he had been a Met Officer for 8 years and had never~nything…
  • p. 368 …despite agreeing to complete a report form, this has never been returned - I wonder why? (13)
  • p. 399 …Significantly, the plot was never present on radar displays from the NATS sensors at Cromer and…
  • p. 417 …RAF Northwood was never involved in this event. confusion has arisen because Gt Yarmouth coastguard, referred…
  • p. 432 …Significantly, the plot was never present on radar displays from the NATS sensors at Cromer and…
Copies of report made by RAF Fylingdales, North Yorkshire, of unidentified objects
tracked by the BMEWS on or about 13 September 1980, and reported to MOD.
While ch~S8/75/2/5 Part B for the above, we will also search for a report
from PC -on 28 November 1980 as requested. As we would be reviewing
this file for the above mentioned report, there will be no additional charge for this search.
4. Copies of UFO reports made in the early hours of30/31 March 1993 by RAF and
meteorological office personnel and by members of the public.
We have not located any additional information to that contained in D/Sec(AS)12/7 since
my letter of 16 September. We are however content to examine this file for the
information you have requested.
5. Reports of unusual phenomena on radar in the early hours of 5 October 1996
reported by the SOC Neatishead and UFO reports made by Lincolnshire Police and
Skegness coastguard.
As I said in my previous letter, we have located one file which may contain relevant
information.
Given the above, if you wish us to pursue your requests regarding 2 to 5, I estimate that this
would still require 23 hours to complete, four hours ofwhich would be conducted free, leaving 19
hours, which would attract a fee of£ 15 an hour, or a total of £285. I should inform you that
while the files you may have seen in the PRO and,those older UFO report files that we have
recalled from archives show that UFO reports were once filed in date order, this has not always
been the case. Today (and we believe for a number of years) the reports have been filed in the
order in which the Department has received them. The only way to identify the information
requested is to search whole files covering the relevant period. Our estimate, therefore, takes in to
account not only the cost of copying and removing personal details from any relevant papers
found, but also the time taken to conduct these searches. This estimate indicates the largest period
of time that might be required, clearly if the work can be accomplished in less time, the cost will
be lowered accordingly. Please let me know if you wish us to proceed with your request.
Finally, you asked if we keep a list of the files destroyed in 1990 and the reason for their
destruction. It appears from our records that 18 files were destroyed in March 1990. These
included four policy files, four parliamentary correspondence, seven report and/or correspondence
files, one entitled "Solar Satellite Power Station" and the two House ofLords Debate files
mentioned in my earlier letter. We have found no record of why these files were destroyed.
I hope this is helpful.
Yours sincerely,

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