Documents / Document

MOD file DEFE 24/2032/1

The Black Vault · 492 pages · text from the file's own layer

This Ministry of Defence file, released through The National Archives and published by The Black Vault, holds the MOD's 2002 handling of Dr David Clarke's requests for UFO documents under the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information. It includes the MOD's 9 December 2002 reply, which covered reports from 1976, 1980, 1993 and 1996 and charged £260. It also contains internal emails and file requisitions, plus Foreign Office and United Nations papers from 1978 on Grenada's proposal for UFO research.

  • p. 40 …But, unlike with the aircraft reported by the noble Earl, I have never seen one. I…
  • p. 43 …the United States of America which has never been made known to the public and even…
  • p. 45 …will be, Yes, and yet they have never seen one. We are asking you to believe…
  • p. 46 …selfish- ness and tendency to panic as never before since the days of the Crusades. The…
  • p. 47 …I never reached that standard of mathematics. However I know that Einstein believed that ele~tro…
  • p. 51 …The difficulty about such an explanation is that they never seem to come into actual contact…
  • p. 53 …some of the things he told us. Never- theless, I feel that it is of immense…
  • p. 58 …What sort of an interpretation would somebody who had H.L.8 Q never read about…
  • p. 59 …l should lib:1 have never seen ball lightning, but the 1 to go into the…
  • p. 60 …She said "I don't \Vant to, because it will spoil it all." They said " Never…
  • p. 62 …Of ;orts of sightings ~never it has been n·estigation they tttral phenomena pet to say…
  • p. 67 …1308 fro,m h;m ag~;n ~n many other occ";?"'· ' Why have they never tded…
  • p. 112 ..~ say that in the Air Force, for tne moment, they have never seemed to come directly…
  • p. 131 …informed that 11so far the military have never fonnd an-ything of D.nt1tjgressive nature fro…
  • p. 161 …Air Force, for tile moment, they have never seemed to come directly under air defence. ' . I…
  • p. 177 …informed that 11so far the military have never found anything of an~~gressive nature from the…
  • p. 187 …But it would be a brave man who said there could never, ever,be manned inter…
  • p. 190 …a cloud descended and picked up ~he regiment and it was never heard of again ••••••• (checking…
  • p. 192 …Let me assure this House that Her Majesty's Government has never been approached by people…
  • p. 209 …But it would be a brave man who said there could never, ever,be manned inter…
  • p. 212 …a cl6ud descended and picked up :the regiment and it was never heard of again ••••••• (checking…
  • p. 214 …Let me assure this Rouse that Her Majesty's Government has never been approached by people…
  • p. 300 …despite agreeing to complete a report form, this has never been returned - I wonder why? (13)
  • p. 320 …Mrllllllll stated that he had been a Met Officer for 8 years and had never~nything…
  • p. 368 …despite agreeing to complete a report form, this has never been returned - I wonder why? (13)
  • p. 399 …Significantly, the plot was never present on radar displays from the NATS sensors at Cromer and…
  • p. 417 …RAF Northwood was never involved in this event. confusion has arisen because Gt Yarmouth coastguard, referred…
  • p. 432 …Significantly, the plot was never present on radar displays from the NATS sensors at Cromer and…
Directorate Air StatT
Ministry of Defence
Metropole Building
Northumberland Avenue
London WClN SBP
Your ref D/DAS/64/3/11
11 November 2002
Dr David Clarke '
.i.~,··--; ::• ,.
Thank you for your letter of 31 October following my request for copies ofUFO-related
documents. I'm grateful once again for the detailed responses to my questions, and for
the breakdown of the costs involved in supplying the documents I requested. Therefore,
please proceed with my application on the basis of the quote you provided in your earlier
letter of 16 September 2002. Please advise me if the total is likely to exceed the figure
you have quoted (£285) so that I may decide if I wish the work to continue.
With reference to your comments in reply to my point (2) concerning the briefing notes
prepared for the House of Lords UFO debate. Yes, I wish to pursue my request for copies
of papers contained in the General Parliamentary Correspondence file covering 1978
(MoD ref D/DS8/75/3 Part A) to which you refer and would be grateful if you could
process this request as part of my overall application above. In addition, if additional
papers relating to briefings for the 1978 House of Lords debate are located by the other
branches you mentioned, I wish to obtain copies of these under the same application.
_ ___cF_i----;nally, I wonder if you are able to answer a more general question with regard to the
!pl4lttlftte,omu'1g Freedom of Information Act. I understand that from January 2005 the
·ILIIDHrt111ot111" '30 year rule' will be effectively abolished, and that in addition the FOIA is
retrospective in terms of documents currently awaiting release at the Public Record
Office. How, in practice, will this alter the current arrangements with regard to
applications - such as the one I am currently making - for access to UFO files currently
'closed' under the 30 year rule?
Thank you for your attention to my requests.
Yours sincerely,

Cases discussed

About this file

Document, cited by the archive. The PDF is mirrored here; the original link is under it. 492 pages are in the text index: search them above, or from the library's search.