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MOD file DEFE 24/2032/1

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This Ministry of Defence file, released through The National Archives and published by The Black Vault, holds the MOD's 2002 handling of Dr David Clarke's requests for UFO documents under the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information. It includes the MOD's 9 December 2002 reply, which covered reports from 1976, 1980, 1993 and 1996 and charged £260. It also contains internal emails and file requisitions, plus Foreign Office and United Nations papers from 1978 on Grenada's proposal for UFO research.

  • p. 40 …But, unlike with the aircraft reported by the noble Earl, I have never seen one. I…
  • p. 43 …the United States of America which has never been made known to the public and even…
  • p. 45 …will be, Yes, and yet they have never seen one. We are asking you to believe…
  • p. 46 …selfish- ness and tendency to panic as never before since the days of the Crusades. The…
  • p. 47 …I never reached that standard of mathematics. However I know that Einstein believed that ele~tro…
  • p. 51 …The difficulty about such an explanation is that they never seem to come into actual contact…
  • p. 53 …some of the things he told us. Never- theless, I feel that it is of immense…
  • p. 58 …What sort of an interpretation would somebody who had H.L.8 Q never read about…
  • p. 59 …l should lib:1 have never seen ball lightning, but the 1 to go into the…
  • p. 60 …She said "I don't \Vant to, because it will spoil it all." They said " Never…
  • p. 62 …Of ;orts of sightings ~never it has been n·estigation they tttral phenomena pet to say…
  • p. 67 …1308 fro,m h;m ag~;n ~n many other occ";?"'· ' Why have they never tded…
  • p. 112 ..~ say that in the Air Force, for tne moment, they have never seemed to come directly…
  • p. 131 …informed that 11so far the military have never fonnd an-ything of D.nt1tjgressive nature fro…
  • p. 161 …Air Force, for tile moment, they have never seemed to come directly under air defence. ' . I…
  • p. 177 …informed that 11so far the military have never found anything of an~~gressive nature from the…
  • p. 187 …But it would be a brave man who said there could never, ever,be manned inter…
  • p. 190 …a cloud descended and picked up ~he regiment and it was never heard of again ••••••• (checking…
  • p. 192 …Let me assure this House that Her Majesty's Government has never been approached by people…
  • p. 209 …But it would be a brave man who said there could never, ever,be manned inter…
  • p. 212 …a cl6ud descended and picked up :the regiment and it was never heard of again ••••••• (checking…
  • p. 214 …Let me assure this Rouse that Her Majesty's Government has never been approached by people…
  • p. 300 …despite agreeing to complete a report form, this has never been returned - I wonder why? (13)
  • p. 320 …Mrllllllll stated that he had been a Met Officer for 8 years and had never~nything…
  • p. 368 …despite agreeing to complete a report form, this has never been returned - I wonder why? (13)
  • p. 399 …Significantly, the plot was never present on radar displays from the NATS sensors at Cromer and…
  • p. 417 …RAF Northwood was never involved in this event. confusion has arisen because Gt Yarmouth coastguard, referred…
  • p. 432 …Significantly, the plot was never present on radar displays from the NATS sensors at Cromer and…
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I have identified 21 reports fitting Dr Clarke's request. There are difficulties with
supplying the assessment because despite the fact that there is a paragraph in one of
Mr Pope's loose minutes to the Head ofSec(AS) saying that D Air Def(now DAO)
said that RAF Neatishead confirmed nothing was detected on air defence radar, Mr
Pope continued to make enquiries with a number of other departments and the case
was eventually put through the Head of Sec( AS) to ACAS. This makes the case look
unusual because once established with D Air Def that they were not concerned from
an air defence point of view, no other enquiries would normally be made. The file
contains no real conclusion to these events and Mr Pope was eventually told by the
Head ofSec(AS) to "drop the subject".
Request 5
Reports of unusual phenomena on radar in the early hours of 5 October 1996
reported by the SOC Neatishead and UFO reports made by Lincolnshire Police
and the Skegness coastguard. Copies of investigation notes and assessment
made.
File D/Sec(AS)64/2 Part D searched and the following papers were identified.
Signal message from UKCAOC High W;ycombe to MOD UK AIR (Copied to HQ
11118 Gp Bentley Priory and CRC Neatishead) dated 5 Oct 1996 concerning a UFO
report made by MV Conocoast to Great Yarmouth Coastguard
A fax message from RAF Neatishead to GESM dated 5 Oct 1996 attached to a
transcipt of conversations between Neatishead, the Coastguard, MV Conocoast and
Skegness Police. (The file copy is difficult to read and despite our best efforts it has
not copied well. DAO ADGE 1 contacted Neatishead to see if they had retained a
clearer copy, but unfortunately their files have been destroyed).
Loose minute from DAO ADGE I to Sec(AS)2al dated 7 October 1996 given his
thoughts on what may have been seen on 5 Oct 1996.
File D/Sec(AS)64/4 also contained a very detailed loose minute from ADGE 1 to
Sec(AS)2a1 dated 13 Nov 1996 about the events of 5 Oct 1996. This was prepared
as background material to a letter from Mr Martin Redmond MP to the Secretary of
State in which Mr Redmond seriously criticised UK Air Defence systems. The
current ADGE 1 has looked at this and with some removal of names, posts etc, he is
happy for it to be supplied to Dr Clarke.

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