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MOD file DEFE 24/2032/1

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This Ministry of Defence file, released through The National Archives and published by The Black Vault, holds the MOD's 2002 handling of Dr David Clarke's requests for UFO documents under the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information. It includes the MOD's 9 December 2002 reply, which covered reports from 1976, 1980, 1993 and 1996 and charged £260. It also contains internal emails and file requisitions, plus Foreign Office and United Nations papers from 1978 on Grenada's proposal for UFO research.

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  • p. 187 …J from a hole in the earth, or the depths of the sea, as Lord Clancarty…
  • p. 193 …time continu~, or the depths of the sea, or an~there else they are supposed to…
  • p. 209 …a hole in the earth, or the depths of the sea, as Lord Clancarty has suggested.
  • p. 215 …time continu~, or the depths of the sea, or an~there else they are supposed to…
  • p. 260 …Both reporters are adamant that the helicopters were military - probably 'Sea Kings'? but again MOO (AIR…
  • p. 309 …Crymyn, Dy Time y on hill side approximately 1,000' above sea level. Attending sheep, observes…
  • p. 328 …Both reporters are adamant that the helicopters were military - probably 'Sea Kings'? but again MOD (AIR…
  • p. 380 …Lady on hill side approximately 1,000' above sea level. Attending sheep, observes 2 large white…
  • p. 394 …These lights were observed from a single location out at sea in the opposite direction to…
  • p. 397 …could be related to an incident at sea. The MRCC, unaware of any maritime activity, asked…
  • p. 398 …the dawn, involving a tanker vessel at sea, Boston and Skegness Police Forces and LATCC(Civil…
  • p. 415 …flares' about 20 minutes previously in Irish sea area. Aircraft 2, UK Air out of Manchester…
  • p. 427 …These lights were observed from a single location out at sea in the opposite direction to…
  • p. 430 …could be related to an incident at sea. The MRCC, unaware of any maritime activity, asked…
  • p. 431 …the dawn, involving a tanker vessel at sea, Boston and Skegness Police Forces and LATCC{Civil…
  • p. 446 …Isle of contact in which mi Irish Sea I - Aircr~ft when 30nm $ou nothing se…
Also on file D/DSS/75/3 I discovered a number of other papers which are mainly draft
ministerial correspondence but relate to the debate in the United Nations. They are as
follows;
14. Letter from a member of the public (24 Nov 1977) and covering letter from
Richard Luce MP to Minister of State for the FCO (8 Dec 1977) about press reports
that the United Nations were to start an official probe into UFOs. (Unclassified)
15. Letter from Minister of State at FCO to Richard Luce MP (9 Dec 1977) to sey his
letter had been transferred to the MOD. (Unclassified)
16. Copies of two newspaper cuttings from the Daily Telegraph (30 Nov1977 and
2 Dec 19 77) about the President of Grenada's proposal for a UN Study into UFOs.
(Unclassified)
17. Copy of a newspaper cutting from The Sun (30 Nov 1977) on the UN debate on
UFOs. (Unclassified)
18. File note dated 16 Dec 1977 seying the UN resolution had been shelved
indefinitely and that the UK did not support it. (Unclassified)
19. Letter from S4(Air) to the Energy, Science & Space Department at the FCO dated
16 Dec 1977 requesting confirmation of the situation regarding the UN resolution.
(Unclassified)
20. Draft letter from US of S (RAF) to Richard Luce MP in answer to ministerial
correspondence mentioned at (I) above. (Unclassified)
21. Background note from S4(Air) to US of S (RAF) covering the above mentioned
draft, dated 19 Dec 1977. (Unclassified)
22. Letter in reply to Richard Luce MP as mentioned at (I) above.
Dated 20 December 1977. (Unclassified)
These papers may be considered relevant to Dr Clarke's request as they also concern
the UN debate on UFOs. We can not make a decision on the release of these until we
have heard from the FCO about the other batch of papers.
File D/DSS/75/3 also contained a number of papers concerning a radio broadcast that
the French Minister ofDefence, M. Galley, gave in 1974 in which it was alleged he
had said UFOs were real.
23. Copy of extract from House of Lords Hansard dated 9 March 1978 in which the
Earl of Clancarty asked HMG whether they had obtained an official transcript of the
broadcast on French-Inter radio of the interview with the French Minister of Defence.
(Unclassified)

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