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MOD file DEFE 24/2032/1

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This Ministry of Defence file, released through The National Archives and published by The Black Vault, holds the MOD's 2002 handling of Dr David Clarke's requests for UFO documents under the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information. It includes the MOD's 9 December 2002 reply, which covered reports from 1976, 1980, 1993 and 1996 and charged £260. It also contains internal emails and file requisitions, plus Foreign Office and United Nations papers from 1978 on Grenada's proposal for UFO research.

  • p. 40 …But, unlike with the aircraft reported by the noble Earl, I have never seen one. I…
  • p. 43 …the United States of America which has never been made known to the public and even…
  • p. 45 …will be, Yes, and yet they have never seen one. We are asking you to believe…
  • p. 46 …selfish- ness and tendency to panic as never before since the days of the Crusades. The…
  • p. 47 …I never reached that standard of mathematics. However I know that Einstein believed that ele~tro…
  • p. 51 …The difficulty about such an explanation is that they never seem to come into actual contact…
  • p. 53 …some of the things he told us. Never- theless, I feel that it is of immense…
  • p. 58 …What sort of an interpretation would somebody who had H.L.8 Q never read about…
  • p. 59 …l should lib:1 have never seen ball lightning, but the 1 to go into the…
  • p. 60 …She said "I don't \Vant to, because it will spoil it all." They said " Never…
  • p. 62 …Of ;orts of sightings ~never it has been n·estigation they tttral phenomena pet to say…
  • p. 67 …1308 fro,m h;m ag~;n ~n many other occ";?"'· ' Why have they never tded…
  • p. 112 ..~ say that in the Air Force, for tne moment, they have never seemed to come directly…
  • p. 131 …informed that 11so far the military have never fonnd an-ything of D.nt1tjgressive nature fro…
  • p. 161 …Air Force, for tile moment, they have never seemed to come directly under air defence. ' . I…
  • p. 177 …informed that 11so far the military have never found anything of an~~gressive nature from the…
  • p. 187 …But it would be a brave man who said there could never, ever,be manned inter…
  • p. 190 …a cloud descended and picked up ~he regiment and it was never heard of again ••••••• (checking…
  • p. 192 …Let me assure this House that Her Majesty's Government has never been approached by people…
  • p. 209 …But it would be a brave man who said there could never, ever,be manned inter…
  • p. 212 …a cl6ud descended and picked up :the regiment and it was never heard of again ••••••• (checking…
  • p. 214 …Let me assure this Rouse that Her Majesty's Government has never been approached by people…
  • p. 300 …despite agreeing to complete a report form, this has never been returned - I wonder why? (13)
  • p. 320 …Mrllllllll stated that he had been a Met Officer for 8 years and had never~nything…
  • p. 368 …despite agreeing to complete a report form, this has never been returned - I wonder why? (13)
  • p. 399 …Significantly, the plot was never present on radar displays from the NATS sensors at Cromer and…
  • p. 417 …RAF Northwood was never involved in this event. confusion has arisen because Gt Yarmouth coastguard, referred…
  • p. 432 …Significantly, the plot was never present on radar displays from the NATS sensors at Cromer and…
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1259 Unidentified [LORDS ] Flyi11g Objects 1260
[The Earl of Kimberley.}
Russian scientists see a connection between
UFOs and paranormal phenomena. In
fact, there is an ever-growing belief that
space travel has a connection with tele-
pathy and telekinesis, because cosmonauts
in orbit have discovered through scientific
tests that they have an increased level of
telephathic communication. Jf\ve assume
that extra-terrestrial intelligences who
travel to earth are more advanced than
we are-and in that respect I think that
they must be-then UFOs could be tele-
kinetic phenomena: in other words,
controlled by thought pulses.
Since thought is not subject to the
physical limitations of matter, thea veloci-
ties in excess of the speed of light would be
possible. It is interesting to me th:::t in
1968 I was sp-:aking to Sir Frank Whittle,
the inventor of the jet engine and an
eminent scientist, about interstellar space
travel. It was just before the Americans
had landed on the moon. Sir Frank
said that he thought that it would be
perfectly feasible one day to go to the
stars, as he did not believe in Einstein's
theory of relativity. A rem~rk like this,
coming from an ordinary man like myself,
would probably, quite rightly, be laughed
at. But one can certainly not laugh when
a remark like that is made bv such an
eminent person as Sir Frank Vihittle.
What is interesting is that two years htcr,
in 1970, Dr. Fomin, a Russian doctor of
telekinesis ar:d automation, argued that, ·
to traverse interstellar space, \Ve would
have to grapple with physical laws differeut
from those we know at present and which
so far are oi1ly theory. However, these
principles have been established in mathe-
matical formulae. Therefore, Einsteiil's
concept of time and space possibly may
not apply.
In· 1976, President Carter, in a· pre-
election pledge stated:
'.'If I become President, I'Wmake every piece
of infom1ation this country has about UFO siting3
available to the oublic and the scientists. I am
convinced that UFOs exist. I have seen them".
This statement was a breakthrough against
the United States cover-up as it admitted
that not all UFO information is, or has
been, available to the American public.
For instancr.:, do your Lordships' know
that three former United States Presidents
before their election proclaimed their
belief in UFOs '? They were President
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Eisenhower, President Lyndon Johnson
and President Ford, who I agree wa~
appointed. During their presidencies thev
bec~me completely silent and did not ful~l
their promises. . Why? I strongly sus-
pect that Her MaJesty's Government know
why, and if they do know, why then,
they should inform your Lordships.
I believe that there is much material
evidence on UFOs in the national archives
in the United States of America which
has never been made known to the public
and even President Carter is finding it
difficult to carry o~t his pre-election pkdge.
I am led to believe that he has tried
unsuccessfully with NASA to do UFO
research. The answer he has beea given
is" No, due to exp~nse ". That re~eareh
which NASA has been required to do
wouid cost a few million dollars, but a
few millioa dollars is only tile cost of two
astronauts' suits. Therefore it ~ppears
obvious that for some reason there is a
cover-up in the United States.
We in the United Kingdom are in a
strange position because we have had
thousands of sightings, yet I am led to
understand that the Ministry of Defence
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