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MOD file DEFE 24/2032/1

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This Ministry of Defence file, released through The National Archives and published by The Black Vault, holds the MOD's 2002 handling of Dr David Clarke's requests for UFO documents under the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information. It includes the MOD's 9 December 2002 reply, which covered reports from 1976, 1980, 1993 and 1996 and charged £260. It also contains internal emails and file requisitions, plus Foreign Office and United Nations papers from 1978 on Grenada's proposal for UFO research.

  • p. 6 …Copy of the file relating to a UFO report made by-nd- near Winchester, Hampshire on…
  • p. 7 …Files D/DS8/75/2/5 Part B (UFO Reports-August to November 1980) and D…
  • p. 9 …ofLords Debate on UFOs, on 18 January 1979. On examining our files we have discovered a…
  • p. 17 …SPfCIFIC ACTION ON UFO'S AND PRECLUDES THE INSCRIPTJOr OF A SETARATE UFO ITEM ON NEXT…
  • p. 18 …Ol<Ell ~-~i;Js"-7.-zlL- ... ! FILES F:~-~-~.:~:i ~:; ., '· .~::-~· :·:J. ~, ·) -.llJ'JD ES & SD N…
  • p. 35 …Our files contain reports and Nick Pope's letters to Dl55 and notes about D Air…
  • p. 69 …Galley had said that UFOs were real but that he, the Minister, did not know where…
  • p. 70 …It cfo!lows UFOs, the truth is simple. There really that the files must remain closed…
  • p. 134 …We may be in for a long hau1 on UFOs. The reply to the Earl will…
  • p. 185 …Copies of enclosures 1/1, 1/2,1/3,1/4 from file Dl55/1 08…
  • p. 190 …We have rio reason to believe that the so-called UFOs are attributed to anything but…
  • p. 212 …We have rio reason to believe that the so-called UFOs are attributed to anything but…
  • p. 303 …I received a non Ufo report from a gentleman (name on file) who is a recently…
  • p. 371 …I received a non Ufo report from a gentleman (name on file) who is a recently…
  • p. 451 DR CLARKE- REQUEST FOR INFORMATION Request 1 Copy of the file relating to a UFO report…
  • p. 453 …1977) on the UN debate on UFOs. (Unclassified) 18. File note dated 16 Dec 1977 seying…
  • p. 454 …French handling of UFO reports. (Unclassified) 29. Draft reply, background note and file minutes concerning Lord…
  • p. 455 …There is one file D/Sec(AS)12/7- Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs)- Alleged UFO incident…
  • p. 456 …The file contains no real conclusion to these events and Mr Pope was eventually told by…
  • p. 460 …I am currently making - for access to UFO files currently 'closed' under the 30 year rule…
  • p. 462 …UFO report made by Winchester, Hampshire on 14 November 1976. • and I have now received file…
  • p. 463 …UFO report files that we have recalled from archives show that UFO reports were once filed…
  • p. 464 I am sorry we are unable to locate the file(s) you requested on the information…
  • p. 466 …Lords debate on UFOs, on 18 January 1979. We had two files on this, but these…
  • p. 467 …Lords debate on UFOs, on 18 January 1979. We had two files on this, but these…
  • p. 468 REQUISITION FOR A REGISTERED FILE To:-DR2a2 File Nos: (1) D/DS8/75/3 UFOs- Parliamentary…
  • p. 470 …Ifthe UFO reports y, \.j.tf' '\,....,.~V'tt contains are filed in chronologie~! order as is…
  • p. 471 …The file reference D/Sec(AS)1217 UFOs, alleged UFO incident, 31st March 1993, appears 0…
  • p. 472 …Does your branch retain a list of UFO files that have been destroyed, and the reasons…
  • p. 474 …DAO ADGE1 Subject: UFO Importance: Low Sir Unfortunately, Neatishead destroyed their files (and therefore any transcript…
  • p. 476 …Copy of the file relating to a UFO report made and -near Winchester, Hampshire, on 14…
  • p. 477 …file which may contain relevant information. D/Sec(AS)12/7- Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs)- Alleged…
  • p. 478 …The files concerned are: D/DSS/75/2/2 Part L (1980) UFO Reports: Edited D…
  • p. 480 …This was produced because it was believed that some UFO files might have been over looked…
  • p. 482 . . ~·. MOD Form 262E REQUISITION FORA REGISTERED FILE To:-DR2a2 File Nos: 1) D/DS8/7517 PtA…
  • p. 486 …We have a file on these events, but I know DIS also have a file D…
  • p. 487 …The file I need is PRO reference AIR 2/18977 UFO Reports- due for release in…
  • p. 489 …Copy of the file relating to a UFO report made by near Winch~ster, ~am~s…
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1247 Unidentified [LORDS ] · Flying Objects 1248
Before speaking about the need for an in 1947, millions of people all over the
intra-governmental study of UFOs, which world have seen the UFOs. This brings
is the basis of my Motion being debated me to the class of witnesses that see
today, I think it advisable to give your UFOs. It is true that occasiona!ly one
Lordships some background to this fas- gets the odd crank or hoaxer; but the
cinating subject of UFOs. I shall briefly majority of witnesses are sincere people.
cover a little history, the classes of wit- Then again many witnesses are pilots,
nesses, the characteristics of UFOs and police officers, coastguards, radar opera-
some important sightings, and then I shall tors-in short, trained observers. Manv
deal with the vital subject of the attitude astronauts have seen UFOs. Many
of governments to these important people ask me: " Why is it that astron-
phenomena. omers do not see them? ,. The answer
is that they do. In a letter published in the
Although UFOs have come to the fore Daily Telegraph on 4th January last year
since the end of the last World War, I listed eight well-known astronomers wh~
there are reports of them all through had seen UFOs, including Dr. Clyde
history. Among the papers of the late Tombaugh, discoverer of the planet Pluto.
Professor Alberto Tulli, former director
of the Egyptian Museum at the Vatican,
was found one of the earliest known
records of a fleet of flying saucers. It
was written on papryus long ago in
ancient Egypt-actually, it was at the
time of Thutmose III, circa 1504 to 1450
BC, who, with his army witnessed the
sighting of what we today would call
UFOs.
Now, I am not going to bore your
Lordships with accounts of UFOs in
every century because I want to get on
to the very intere~ting tl-Jngs happening
today. In modern times things began
to happen during World War II when both
allied and German pilots saw strange
circular lights around their planes. We
called them Foo fighters. Both Allied
and German piiots thought that they were
secret weapons of the other side. After
the war, on 24th June 1947, an American
called Kenneth Arnold, piloting his own
plane, was on a mercy mission trying to
find another aircraft that had crashed
somewhere in the Cascade Mountains in
the State of Washington. Suddenly, he
spotted nine gleaming objects, crescent
shaped, flying in a zigzag fashion between
his plane and the mountains. He managed
to calculate their speed because he was
· able to get a fix-! think that is the tech-
nical term-between two mountain peaks,
Rainier and Baker. It appeared that the
objects were travelling at some 1,400 miles
per hour-a very fast speed in 1947.
Some time after landing, Arnold, in
answer to a question from the Press,
des~rihed the motion of the flying objects
as being like saucers skimming over water.
Next day the Press headlined them as
"flying saucers". Since Arnold's sighting
Now a few words, my Lords, about the
UFOs themselves. Actually, the name
" flying saucer" given by the Press in
1947 was a misnomer as they come in all
sorts of shapes and sizes: cigar, oval,
disc, sphere, doughnut, crescent and
tadpole shaped. You name it, my Lords,
the list is endless. I should like to say a
few words about their characteristics.
UFOs often have \;ery bright lights and
sometimes when in flight change colours
all the way through the colour spectrum.
Sometimes the light from a UFO is so
intense that its shape is obscured from
view. This light energy is so powerful
that witnesses have been burned on the
face and hands if in too close a proximity
to a UFO.
Another characteristic of the UFOs is
eiectrical interference with various
machines. UFOs have been notorious for
stopping cars at short range. The driver
will hear his engine splutter and it stops
running. Besides cars, many other
machines have been affected, including
aircraft, motor cycles, buses, lorries and
tractors. UFOs are said to be the cause
of some of the power blackouts in the
USA, Mexico and other countries. Indeed,
UFOs have been seen flying along power
lines in the USA just before black-outs.
Furthermore, I have a picture on the wall
of my study at home of a UFO doing
just that!
Now, I will mention one or two of the
more impressive sightings since the war.
On the 29th June, 1954, a BOAC Boeing
stratocruiser " Centaurus " had taken off
from New York for London. Dinner had
been served. The time was just after
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