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MOD file DEFE 24/2032/1

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This Ministry of Defence file, released through The National Archives and published by The Black Vault, holds the MOD's 2002 handling of Dr David Clarke's requests for UFO documents under the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information. It includes the MOD's 9 December 2002 reply, which covered reports from 1976, 1980, 1993 and 1996 and charged £260. It also contains internal emails and file requisitions, plus Foreign Office and United Nations papers from 1978 on Grenada's proposal for UFO research.

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  • p. 60 …fiction is taken up with the supposition that vastly superior kings to ourselves are motivated by…
  • p. 66 …that it was the noble Lord, Lord Kings Norton-who said that I probably it should…
  • p. 70 …Lord KINGS. NORTON: My Lords, the word was" mtra ", not "inter". Lord STRABOLGI: My Lords, I…
  • p. 128 …Signature of both Vrotocols on behalf of the United King~o· took place on 12th December…
  • p. 198 …of Kimberley,· IViscount St Davids, Lords Rankeillour, Kings-Norton, Gladv..ryn l and Hewlett, the Bishop…
  • p. 202 …of Kimberley,· Viscount St Davids, Lords Rankeillour, Kings-Norton, Glad~7n and Hewlett, the Bishop of…
  • p. 260 …Both reporters are adamant that the helicopters were military - probably 'Sea Kings'? but again MOO (AIR…
  • p. 328 …Both reporters are adamant that the helicopters were military - probably 'Sea Kings'? but again MOD (AIR…
  • p. 383 …Unfortunately the-..clee-Hill·radar head was not wot"king on primary radar during the recording…
  • p. 399 …However, when asked at 0227 and 0240Z respectively, police at Kings Lynn and the MV NAUTIC…
  • p. 405 KINGS LYNN POLICE 0227Z - No reports of unusual lights. MV CONOCOAST "~'~"~'"'"r'"'r carrying fuel to…
  • p. 406 …0227 Police -Kings Lynn No unusual lights reported. 0240 MV NAUTIC W No lights seen. 0246…
  • p. 414 …duty 5 Oct duty 5 oct 96) Kings Lynn Police 0237Z No lights reported HQ Lincolnshire…
  • p. 432 …However, when asked at 0227 and 0240Z respectively, police at Kings Lynn and the MV NAUTIC…
  • p. 438 KINGS LYNN POLICE !REDACTION ON ORIGINAL DOCUMENT! 0227Z - No reports of unusual lights. MV CONOCOAST AN…
  • p. 445 …0600Z 5 Oct Boston Police Control Room Kings Lynn Police on duty 5 Oct (on duty…
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A small difficulty haA( for purely tactical reasons
unconnected with UFOs, acceded (with other countries) to a
request by the Government of Grenada for a UN study group (at
Grenadan expense) to monitor information on UFOs. The l'Tording
of that part of the draft speech has been supplied by FCO.
6. The general line adopted is that there really are strange
phenomena in the sky, but there are perfectly rational
explanations to account for them, so there is no need to introduce
the highly questionable hypothesis of alien space craft. In other
.words, Occam's Razor.
7. The broad line was put to Lord Strabolgi, at our meeting
in December and agreed by him. Lord Strabolgi asked for further
information about cosmic distances and the difficulties of space
travel. I have not included this in the speech, because Lord
Cla.ncarty's "sky people" are evidently "paranormal" and can cross
the light years in a trice; but some facts are included at the
end of the background note.
8. Lord Strabolgi also mentioned the possibility of replying
on any detailed cases produced by Lord Clancarty if the latt€r will
give advance notice. I repeat the advice I gave in December: we
should not attempt to argue these cases, which tend to be remote
and elusive yet often cannot be refuted without very detailed
examination; indeed w·e should not fight the battle on Lord Clancarty's
ground at all.
9. DES have been consulted and are content.
10. You vTill no doubt confirm the time and place of the final
briefine;, which i'i.t p1•esent He have dm·m for am \•lednesday 17 January.

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