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MOD file DEFE 24/2032/1

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This Ministry of Defence file, released through The National Archives and published by The Black Vault, holds the MOD's 2002 handling of Dr David Clarke's requests for UFO documents under the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information. It includes the MOD's 9 December 2002 reply, which covered reports from 1976, 1980, 1993 and 1996 and charged £260. It also contains internal emails and file requisitions, plus Foreign Office and United Nations papers from 1978 on Grenada's proposal for UFO research.

  • p. 40 …But, unlike with the aircraft reported by the noble Earl, I have never seen one. I…
  • p. 43 …the United States of America which has never been made known to the public and even…
  • p. 45 …will be, Yes, and yet they have never seen one. We are asking you to believe…
  • p. 46 …selfish- ness and tendency to panic as never before since the days of the Crusades. The…
  • p. 47 …I never reached that standard of mathematics. However I know that Einstein believed that ele~tro…
  • p. 51 …The difficulty about such an explanation is that they never seem to come into actual contact…
  • p. 53 …some of the things he told us. Never- theless, I feel that it is of immense…
  • p. 58 …What sort of an interpretation would somebody who had H.L.8 Q never read about…
  • p. 59 …l should lib:1 have never seen ball lightning, but the 1 to go into the…
  • p. 60 …She said "I don't \Vant to, because it will spoil it all." They said " Never…
  • p. 62 …Of ;orts of sightings ~never it has been n·estigation they tttral phenomena pet to say…
  • p. 67 …1308 fro,m h;m ag~;n ~n many other occ";?"'· ' Why have they never tded…
  • p. 112 ..~ say that in the Air Force, for tne moment, they have never seemed to come directly…
  • p. 131 …informed that 11so far the military have never fonnd an-ything of D.nt1tjgressive nature fro…
  • p. 161 …Air Force, for tile moment, they have never seemed to come directly under air defence. ' . I…
  • p. 177 …informed that 11so far the military have never found anything of an~~gressive nature from the…
  • p. 187 …But it would be a brave man who said there could never, ever,be manned inter…
  • p. 190 …a cloud descended and picked up ~he regiment and it was never heard of again ••••••• (checking…
  • p. 192 …Let me assure this House that Her Majesty's Government has never been approached by people…
  • p. 209 …But it would be a brave man who said there could never, ever,be manned inter…
  • p. 212 …a cl6ud descended and picked up :the regiment and it was never heard of again ••••••• (checking…
  • p. 214 …Let me assure this Rouse that Her Majesty's Government has never been approached by people…
  • p. 300 …despite agreeing to complete a report form, this has never been returned - I wonder why? (13)
  • p. 320 …Mrllllllll stated that he had been a Met Officer for 8 years and had never~nything…
  • p. 368 …despite agreeing to complete a report form, this has never been returned - I wonder why? (13)
  • p. 399 …Significantly, the plot was never present on radar displays from the NATS sensors at Cromer and…
  • p. 417 …RAF Northwood was never involved in this event. confusion has arisen because Gt Yarmouth coastguard, referred…
  • p. 432 …Significantly, the plot was never present on radar displays from the NATS sensors at Cromer and…
UNCLW$£11fi'Jl6TED ·
--5. A small difficulty.haA( for purely tactical reasons
unconnected with UFOs, acceded (with other countries) to a
request by the Government of Grenada for a UN study group (at
Grenadan expense) to monitor information on UFOs. The l'rording
of that part of the draft speech has been supplied by FCO.
6. The general line adopted is that there really are strange
phenomena in the sky, but there are perfectly rational
explanations to account for them, so there is no need to introduce
the highly questionable hypothesis of alien space craft. In other
.words, Occam's Razor.
7. The broad line was put to Lord Strabolgi· at our meeting
in December and agreed by him. Lord Strabolgi asked for further
information about cosmic distances and the difficulties of space
travel. I have not included this in the speech, because Lord
Clancarty's "sky people" are evidently "paranormal" and can cross
the light years in a trice; but some facts are included at the
end of the background note.
8. Lord Strabolgi also mentioned the possibility of replying
on any detailed cases produced by Lord Clancarty if the latt~r will
give advance notice. I repeat the advice I gave in December: we
should not attempt to argue these cases, which tend to be remote
and elusive yet often cannot be refuted without very detailed
examination; indeed ,..,e should not fight the battle on Lord Clancarty's
ground at all.
9. DES have been consulted and are content.
10. You vTill no doubt confirm the time and place of the final
briefine;, which CJ.t present \ve have dm·m for am i'lednesday 17 January.

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