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MOD file DEFE 24/2032/1

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This Ministry of Defence file, released through The National Archives and published by The Black Vault, holds the MOD's 2002 handling of Dr David Clarke's requests for UFO documents under the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information. It includes the MOD's 9 December 2002 reply, which covered reports from 1976, 1980, 1993 and 1996 and charged £260. It also contains internal emails and file requisitions, plus Foreign Office and United Nations papers from 1978 on Grenada's proposal for UFO research.

  • p. 40 …But, unlike with the aircraft reported by the noble Earl, I have never seen one. I…
  • p. 43 …the United States of America which has never been made known to the public and even…
  • p. 45 …will be, Yes, and yet they have never seen one. We are asking you to believe…
  • p. 46 …selfish- ness and tendency to panic as never before since the days of the Crusades. The…
  • p. 47 …I never reached that standard of mathematics. However I know that Einstein believed that ele~tro…
  • p. 51 …The difficulty about such an explanation is that they never seem to come into actual contact…
  • p. 53 …some of the things he told us. Never- theless, I feel that it is of immense…
  • p. 58 …What sort of an interpretation would somebody who had H.L.8 Q never read about…
  • p. 59 …l should lib:1 have never seen ball lightning, but the 1 to go into the…
  • p. 60 …She said "I don't \Vant to, because it will spoil it all." They said " Never…
  • p. 62 …Of ;orts of sightings ~never it has been n·estigation they tttral phenomena pet to say…
  • p. 67 …1308 fro,m h;m ag~;n ~n many other occ";?"'· ' Why have they never tded…
  • p. 112 ..~ say that in the Air Force, for tne moment, they have never seemed to come directly…
  • p. 131 …informed that 11so far the military have never fonnd an-ything of D.nt1tjgressive nature fro…
  • p. 161 …Air Force, for tile moment, they have never seemed to come directly under air defence. ' . I…
  • p. 177 …informed that 11so far the military have never found anything of an~~gressive nature from the…
  • p. 187 …But it would be a brave man who said there could never, ever,be manned inter…
  • p. 190 …a cloud descended and picked up ~he regiment and it was never heard of again ••••••• (checking…
  • p. 192 …Let me assure this House that Her Majesty's Government has never been approached by people…
  • p. 209 …But it would be a brave man who said there could never, ever,be manned inter…
  • p. 212 …a cl6ud descended and picked up :the regiment and it was never heard of again ••••••• (checking…
  • p. 214 …Let me assure this Rouse that Her Majesty's Government has never been approached by people…
  • p. 300 …despite agreeing to complete a report form, this has never been returned - I wonder why? (13)
  • p. 320 …Mrllllllll stated that he had been a Met Officer for 8 years and had never~nything…
  • p. 368 …despite agreeing to complete a report form, this has never been returned - I wonder why? (13)
  • p. 399 …Significantly, the plot was never present on radar displays from the NATS sensors at Cromer and…
  • p. 417 …RAF Northwood was never involved in this event. confusion has arisen because Gt Yarmouth coastguard, referred…
  • p. 432 …Significantly, the plot was never present on radar displays from the NATS sensors at Cromer and…
-0 • LOOSE MINUTE
D/S4 (Air) /8/3
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Copy tp: ACS(G)(RAF)
UFOs - DEBATE IN THE LORDS
I enclose a first draft of a proposed concluding speech
~or Lord Strabolgi in the Lords'' debate.
...,(. ; ,• '.
2. The draft tries to take account of the points made to us
on Thursday by Lord Strabolgi. However, on starting to re-
read the Earl of Clancarty's book 'MYsterious Visitors' I
have appreciated more fully how heavily the Earl has hedged
his bets about space travel: indeed he suggests that the 'sky !
people' are 'paranormal' and come from •another space/time ll
dimension•. I do not recommend trying to track the Earl through
other dimensions, and suggest we stick to the bare essentials f
that we proposed to Lord Strabolgi - that there are p~enty of i
phenomena, that there are perfectly sensible explanations for {
them, and that the explanations offered by ufology are unn~essary and !
prove idiotic under critical examination.
). I would be grateful for any recent recorded cases to cover
the parts of para 6; otherwise I shall draw on the Condon Report
and Klass (the anti-UFO investigator).
4. Clancarty is likely to produce some 1documented 1 and fully
authentica~ cases•. I would like to be able to demolish one
as an illus~on. I have provisionally chosen the disappearance
of the Nor~olk Battalion at Gallipoli, which Clancartry quotes
in one of his books: Hd of Army Historical Branch says that this
is a •regular•, about which the facta can be produced.
5. I would be grateful fer comments, criticisms and additional
arguments or cases. At this stage I am particularly anxious to
know whether you agre'e to the main line of arguments. Because
time is short I would be grateful for telephone comments.
6. The present draft'is about 2,000 words, around 15 minutes.
7. I have copied this minute to ACS(G)(RAF), and I be
grateful for his comments on the general line of
18 December 1978

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