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Los Alamos Conference on Aerial Phenomena, 1949 (DOE-UAP-D004)

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This file is a US Atomic Energy Commission transcript of a secret conference on aerial phenomena held at Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory on 16 February 1949. A cover letter from the AEC Santa Fe office dated 22 March 1949 accompanies it. Dr. Lincoln LaPaz describes the New Mexico green fireballs, including the Starvation Peak sighting of 12 December 1948 and the 30 January 1949 fall over Texas. He argues they were not conventional meteorites. Edward Teller, Norris Bradbury and others discuss the missing sound and the long horizontal paths but reach no conclusion.

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Conference on AERIAL PBFJ.q<L:lENA Paae 19
of ·the American Moteor Society and s1l at once we began -oo get reports of
large n1.llllbe1•a of stntiomry fireballs; not moving. The burst was there, but
no motion. Now one \.'ho observes normal conventional fireball falls is aware
of the fc.ct that not lout of say 500 shove actual fixity; there io always
motion. So, thiG looks very, very strang • Of course, you all kno't1 what
those stationary fireballs turned out to be. They v~re the self-destructive
devices on Japanese paper balloona ope:raung. You bad a. ~gen filled sphere
vi.th a tw•cro,m raaak of magnesium flash•lisht powder. ADd. when the ma.gnesium
and the hydrogen uent off tcsether, you could 13ee it tor a long way. We got
stationary fireballo but they certainly wel"e not meteoritic. My experience
since I w.e auopected of psychological apparitions at the tilna I reported the3e
s-ce.t:lona.ry fireballs to, tor example, Dr. Kamplan, my experience vith .... led
me to be very cautious e.bout tak:lng '1lfY concern ..••. but at the seine time I
feel that we shouldn't be -too hasty in gl.viDg a natural e.xple.nation to thece
green f1reballs.
Dr. Teller: ..... but I vould lik~ to ask, these phenomena a.re a:pparently
quite bright, more luminous than normal meteorites7
Dr. La.Paz: Well., the .1ElllU!!l"Y' 30th o}le wo; I vouldJ;l.•t say 1,hat a.bout the one
I eaw on December 12.. 'lila.t wne a very bright fireball., but not extraordinai:1.ly
so.
Dr. Tell~r: What is the chance of' get•ting pictur~a?
Dr. LaPaz.: I rafer tp the one at't~t that was made on the night of December 19.
We set up a pho·togra.phic patrol - the AESS, as you. probably ltnow, has been
interest~ in this prqblem. ·They brou3ht a lot of sp0Cd graphics and so on
a.nd set th~ up. Mr. t~ll, a member of the group .•.. , and they vere able,
I th1Dk ~ night before., to photograph a. bright <Jem:lnate. But on the night af
the 19th nothing we observed. The ne:tt night, however., the night of the 20th
there tme an iuciclffllt which I bel.ieve might have been photographed, but by that
time th~ equipment had been diesbanded and nothing w.o obtained. I chOuld think.,
with pN~r coverage, say 10 to l'JI,, of these should record themselves provided
you do not Uf.le ~en insensitive • . • . and film such as th3 ••••
Dr. Teller: Is the~ any possibility of having a wide coverage ot the sky
tr-lggered 'by a pboto cell'f
Dr. La.Paz: I have 9-iscussed t.bat, for eDm!)le vith Dr. Reneger., who has been
very much interested i:a the apparatus, and bis answer is more or leas 1n the
negative. I uDd.er(Jtand that Cornell Un1versit;y • Ge.rtline o.f Cornell .. baa
p1'0duced some sort ot p.hoto-ele~tric tngger1Dg device ~ch bas been used in
t):rl.s co:o:nection. I wrote him about it, asking tor reprints or 1nstnICt1one,
but neve~ received a reply.
Question: Do you think ,-011 are going to find film eeJlGitiw to this gre~
color fast en.ought We have sane that can't b lef-t out over 12 hours...••

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