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Los Alamos Conference on Aerial Phenomena, 1949 (DOE-UAP-D004)

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This file is a US Atomic Energy Commission transcript of a secret conference on aerial phenomena held at Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory on 16 February 1949. A cover letter from the AEC Santa Fe office dated 22 March 1949 accompanies it. Dr. Lincoln LaPaz describes the New Mexico green fireballs, including the Starvation Peak sighting of 12 December 1948 and the 30 January 1949 fall over Texas. He argues they were not conventional meteorites. Edward Teller, Norris Bradbury and others discuss the missing sound and the long horizontal paths but reach no conclusion.

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•Confe1·ence on AERIJ\.L PBENOMENA Page 13
Dr. :ta.Paz: mutee chiefly. If' you look closely snd Yithout interference 'from
outside liglrts, yellmrs, oranges and reds.
Dr. :era.clbury: But it's apparently a yellowish-green we 9re t.a.1k1ng G.bout here.
If you can eee a bluish-green, you can aleo a,ee yellows and whites.
Dr. laPaz: '!here is some defect, possibly in the vision, that %'8qu1ree a
pretty high intensity in that yellow-green before it9s uoUd 1n a meteor fall.
Dr. Bradbury: Looks like greenCZ
Dr. LaI'az: Yes it does, that0 s perfectly true. Now here's a peculiar property
of thoae yellov.-gr"en fireballs - same people vill ref'er to them as red. The
only exple..ne.tion that I can tbillk of is they report afterwards that they m:e
what ~a@ exposure to a very green-blUioh light i"ather thnn -the Ugb.t itself•
I donit lm.ov if that 1s correct. And, incidentally, due to your observation,
I don qt kno\-r how to explain the ina.bility of meteor 9baervers to report this
:;.-enega.d color, but, I eim;ply know it doesn't occur. You So through long lists,
like those of the American Meteor Society, you will tilld, I i.JDaSi.ne, not l 1n
100 where a geen is mentioned. Even in the case of the ? ehowere, were you
have largo nUinbera of very brigt.t colors• let me recall eooiething that allot
you must have seen. The • • • • • shower of Oetober 9, 1946 - ~ here who so.v
that? '!'here veN large numbers ot e:.ctremelJ bright fireball.a at that ti?r.e. 0
Kaplan himaelf' recalled that they were blue, maybe blus•sreen, but never yellow
green. And I observ~d those und.er very to.vorable circumstances - ve were
ny1ns a.t about 20.,000 f et in e. B-29. We had no absorption ettecta at ell.
They def'ir:ite1Y' did not shov hues or green.
Dr. Bradbury: You mentioned the noiae problem also. The noise occurs only
when ·the meteot' i tselt blows up, breaks up?
D:t•. La.Paz: No, tb&t isn't strictly ·i;rue. You have, in addition to the hollow
sound, the normal sound of ~ breaku!) of the • • • • • You have headwind; you're
near the path. You get a real ahock; 'to-r 1J1Stance, we have ••••• apparently
broken up by that hea.dwave, shock wave, _in the caee ot the !ford.en County-P'alla.
And then from the turbulence and retlections eJ.l the way along the path,~
liill have a. rumbling 'Qbich nyxy endure oot for the matter~ a tenth of a
second, bQt for m1nutee, and they~re rw rough.
Dr. Bradb"UrY: But these occur fairly close to the tra,Jeetory?
Dr. Le.Paz: Ro. In the case ot ~ Norden County Fells aaa,n, they were heard
clear doim to . . . . . City. •Shakes buildings that rar away. The •••• o Pe.Us
were> heard up to 300 miles from the point ot 1-()act.
Dr. ~48.dbury: Large number of observations ••.••..
Dr. LaPa.z: Bo, the.re again I checked very care:tw.ly because I we concerned.
I am trying desp<erately to give e. logical explanation to the abaence ot 8011Dd.

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