Los Alamos Conference on Aerial Phenomena, 1949 (DOE-UAP-D004)

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Confere:o.ce on AERIAL PBEn'O?SllA Pago 11
Cc.ptc.l.n Neef: i'ell, 1t'o one of those tbinga; it's a llnvy contract and they
arc D0t at liberty to divulge tlhat they f'ind, ■o ve hc.ve to go tbrough
Waohington, the BureD.u of Ordnmlce., to get the informat ion.
Comdr. lbndclkorn: I believe I can get thnt iuf'omation; as a matter of f'e.ct,
I feel very certe.in tbat I con. Just a matter ot ~h.
Dr. La.Paz: I feel certain if I had contacted Dr. Fred l-1hipple., tor ~le,
I could have obtained it, but hin other occ\\!)D,tions keep him away tran that
inst.allation. Am. actually I felt as a me iot., it 'Cigb.t vise to have
OSI appeal for information re.th.er than to ask tor it directly.
C ptain Reef: They did tell uo they weren't using filmu vhich were go1ng to
be ausccptible to thooe eoloro.
D;;•. Lo.PE.z: But, of course, they o.re mald.na; constant viGUD.l. obcervat1cms and
if' you ,1'0%'e able to deter.rd.110 visual. observations 100 mU:ea fran Los Al.tmlos
don't reveal the occurrence of bright grean fireballs, I tb1nk it vould be
o1snif1cent. I don4t lmw vlly they ahould avoid the 60utb.ern-bal:f ot the
Bta.te.
Comdr. l 3lldelltorn: Let us say if tlwae had been at ~ h1sa cltituaeo,
they vou1d hsv~ been v1o1ble fra!!l ffl11te &mds v1thout mq question.
Co.pta.in ee:t: This one or the 30th detin1tely' ve.a Visible tram \-nrlte Sands
becauoe CO!i'!tondP.r Holloman 7 and hie v1fe and one ot his ictanto mid his
vife 00.V it frooi there.
Dr. Le.Po.z: On the otlwr hand., you hc.ve evidence like that ot Prot"eua:,r Talbot ?
n.w in chnrge of tho optical trajectory section. daen +.l'l!M'"ft7 an ~rienced
natroDam~r, c. meDber of the Aner1can lleteor Society. I talked u1th him &'bout
tbio, o.nrl ho ms observed nothing out ot the ordinary. I don't think o.nybody,
I menn in the line of green fir ballo, in this o.rca has been ob erv1Dg •
much cs he doee. I don't see ho\!' he could mies 1glrt1.na eo:ne ot theDe.
Queotion: 'Wl:lat cx,plt.UlG.tion do )IOU have for thia?
Dr. ~: ~c only explanation is the one I save 1n the beglnn!ng smd. had my
ea.re pronptly boxed tor. I think these fll'e def'enaiv~ man.oei.-veru ot a
higher U s. Comm:i\Dd and th ere practising in the nei~ the regians
th,_....,- o.re going to defend, so naturally your localization~ Ugbt neo.r tb.o
e.tamc bceb inBtnlle.tions, but boy, cm I scolded tor tllat! ET1lll Dr. Ka.plan of
the FAD? teUo t!; no, no, the FAD vould knov all o.bout it, an4 they don't
have any facta.
Dr. Bradbury: Is this the pb.ys1c1ot Kaplan?
Di-. Ls.Pe.z: Yeo. Keplan is my old boss. Be ,ma ch1et ot the operat10Dal.
sualyeis oect1on vhtm I vas ••••. director there...... During ltaplan's visit