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James A. McDivitt oral history (Doug Ward)

NASA Johnson Space Center · 1999-06-29 · 110 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is a NASA Johnson Space Center Oral History Project transcript of astronaut James A. McDivitt, interviewed by Doug Ward at Elk Lake, Michigan, on 29 June 1999. McDivitt talks about flying F-86s in Korea, test pilot work at Edwards, and his first class at the Aerospace Research Pilot School. He also covers turning down Dyna-soar, joining NASA in 1962 and learning to be an Apollo Program Manager. He describes the Change Board and says decisions were not second-guessed.

  • p. 6 …t a definition of the roles and missions of all the different military services and NASA…
  • p. 29 …control, there was no doubt in my mind what my decision would have been. The Mission…
  • p. 37 …There wasn’t anybody in that Mission Control Center who knew anything about it, so there…
  • p. 40 …Your flight—your Gemini IV mission—was also the first flight where Mission Control was located…
  • p. 61 …But sometimes they just got out of control. WARD: Getting back to the effects of the…
  • p. 68 …We made very few changes to it for the original missions. We made a lot
  • p. 69 …McDivitt 29 June 1999 12-69 of changes to it later on for the longer mission…
  • p. 90 …And nobody was getting this live feed of us possibly losing an Apollo mission. And when…
  • p. 91 …One of which was to allow the reporters in Mission Control with access to the flight…
29 June 1999 12-1
ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT
JAMES A. MCDIVITT
INTERVIEWED BY DOUG WARD
ELK LAKE, MICHIGAN – 29 JUNE 1999
WARD: This is our oral history interview with Jim McDivitt, June 29, 1999. Jim, starting
back early on, you interrupted your college career early to join the Air Force at the time of
the Korean War, then came back to college, pursued it with a real purpose. Do you think that
your career would have progressed the same if you’d done it the standard way? Started with
college and gone all the way through, and then into the military?
MCDIVITT: Well, I don’t really know. I did it that way because I didn’t have any money!
When I got out of high school, I worked for a year before I even went to junior college. I
went to junior college while I got a scholarship to Michigan State, I didn’t have enough
money to go there. So, I had to go back to work. And since the Korean War started on
Sunday and I started my job on Monday, and I was 20 years old, that was—I was prime bait
for the draft. And so, I was going to get drafted right away. And, I don’t know. It just
turned out perfect for me. So, I might add that, you know, that I went into the Air Force—I’d
never been in an airplane. Never been off the ground. I’d already joined the Air Force, was
in the Air Force, was accepted for pilot training before I had my first ride. So, fortunately I
liked it!
WARD: What was your flying career involved with primarily at that time?
MCDIVITT: Well, when I finished up flying school I went to—the Korean War was on, I
went to gunnery school; and over in Korea I flew F-86s. Flew 145 combat missions. I flew

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