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James A. McDivitt oral history (Doug Ward)

NASA Johnson Space Center · 1999-06-29 · 110 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is a NASA Johnson Space Center Oral History Project transcript of astronaut James A. McDivitt, interviewed by Doug Ward at Elk Lake, Michigan, on 29 June 1999. McDivitt talks about flying F-86s in Korea, test pilot work at Edwards, and his first class at the Aerospace Research Pilot School. He also covers turning down Dyna-soar, joining NASA in 1962 and learning to be an Apollo Program Manager. He describes the Change Board and says decisions were not second-guessed.

  • p. 6 …t a definition of the roles and missions of all the different military services and NASA…
  • p. 29 …control, there was no doubt in my mind what my decision would have been. The Mission…
  • p. 37 …There wasn’t anybody in that Mission Control Center who knew anything about it, so there…
  • p. 40 …Your flight—your Gemini IV mission—was also the first flight where Mission Control was located…
  • p. 61 …But sometimes they just got out of control. WARD: Getting back to the effects of the…
  • p. 68 …We made very few changes to it for the original missions. We made a lot
  • p. 69 …McDivitt 29 June 1999 12-69 of changes to it later on for the longer mission…
  • p. 90 …And nobody was getting this live feed of us possibly losing an Apollo mission. And when…
  • p. 91 …One of which was to allow the reporters in Mission Control with access to the flight…
Johnson Space Center Oral History Project James A. McDivitt
29 June 1999 12-38
MCDIVITT: Oh that was all a misconception. I mean, people made a big deal about that. It
was no big deal at all. He was just having a ball out there. He didn’t want to come back in.
I wanted him to come back in because I didn’t want to have to work on that hatch in the dark.
But, even if he’d have come back in when I told him to come back in, we would’ve still been
working on the hatch in the dark—because it took him a lot longer to get back in and get
back down in it and buckled down. Fortunately, Ed was the same height as I was; but he was
much shorter in the sitting height. I mean, I would be up here and he’d be down here sitting
down. So, we didn’t have a problem of trying to get the hatch closed. Our problem was
getting it latched and locked. And so, he wasn’t in the way when I was trying to do that
stuff. But then there was euphoria. The press got a hold of that and created something great
out of absolutely nothing. As usual!
WARD: Was there any sense of space motion sickness at that time? Later crews, once they
had the latitude to move—
MCDIVITT: No. None. None. And Ed had a very weak stomach. He had a weak stomach.
Every time we went up in a zero-g airplane, he got sick. As soon as we landed in the water,
he was sick. I mean, he was—he had a very, very sensitive stomach to that. You know, he
never got sick flying airplanes and the crazy motions that we did. And we were short on fuel,
so the spacecraft was just tumbling for a couple of days. Just around like this [gestures].
And it didn’t bother him at all.
WARD: Did the relative ease of your EVA perhaps mislead NASA, for the later ones into
thinking that we really understood that process when we didn’t?

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