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James A. McDivitt oral history (Doug Ward)

NASA Johnson Space Center · 1999-06-29 · 110 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is a NASA Johnson Space Center Oral History Project transcript of astronaut James A. McDivitt, interviewed by Doug Ward at Elk Lake, Michigan, on 29 June 1999. McDivitt talks about flying F-86s in Korea, test pilot work at Edwards, and his first class at the Aerospace Research Pilot School. He also covers turning down Dyna-soar, joining NASA in 1962 and learning to be an Apollo Program Manager. He describes the Change Board and says decisions were not second-guessed.

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Johnson Space Center Oral History Project James A. McDivitt
29 June 1999 12-34
what? oh, a couple of weeks I guess.
WARD: But you kept all the preparations pretty quiet.
MCDIVITT: Yeah, they were quiet up until a few days before the flight.
WARD: Do you think the primary motivation was to score a first with the spacewalk? Or
was it to click off that objective because you knew you would need EVA [extravehicular
activity] in Apollo?
McDivitt: Oh, I think originally it was to score the first! But then as we—and it probably
wasn’t until after the flight that we really began to appreciate the fact that working outside a
spacecraft was a lot different than working inside the spacecraft. And then we had—I think
we had an EVA on almost every other flight, other than—I guess [Gemini] V, VI, and VII
didn’t have EVA. VIII didn’t have one because it—we had to bring it down too early. But
the rest of them all did. And that again was a part of the experience that you had to gain to
be able to do the Apollo stuff. It—you know, no EVA experience going into Apollo would
have been a serious problem.
WARD: How did you know what to train for, for that first one?
MCDIVITT: Well, this is one of those ad hoc things. You sort of made it up as you went
along. The gun—that little maneuvering gun that we used fortunately didn’t have much
thrust, because it was a hopeless device! I mean, there was no way you could really control
yourself. You could control yourself on the air table in two axes; but unfortunately when
you’re in space, you’re in three axes in six degrees of freedom. So, it would have been

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