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James A. McDivitt oral history (Doug Ward)

NASA Johnson Space Center · 1999-06-29 · 110 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is a NASA Johnson Space Center Oral History Project transcript of astronaut James A. McDivitt, interviewed by Doug Ward at Elk Lake, Michigan, on 29 June 1999. McDivitt talks about flying F-86s in Korea, test pilot work at Edwards, and his first class at the Aerospace Research Pilot School. He also covers turning down Dyna-soar, joining NASA in 1962 and learning to be an Apollo Program Manager. He describes the Change Board and says decisions were not second-guessed.

  • p. 6 …And I was a student, and Frank Borman was one of the instructors. He’d just…
  • p. 29 …What did Jim McDivitt, Frank Borman, and Neil Armstrong all have in common? MCDIVITT: I have…
  • p. 30 …space traveler as a commander, but you, Borman, and Armstrong were all selected for your first…
  • p. 63 …WARD: —and you and Frank Borman, along with George M. Low who had been named the…
  • p. 95 …And out of that nine, they selected four—Borman and White and Thomas P. Stafford and…
Johnson Space Center Oral History Project James A. McDivitt
29 June 1999 12-30
MCDIVITT: Yeah, I guess so. Well, Frank yeah, Frank was the commander of our backup
crew.
WARD: Of course. Yes. And that had to be the case in Mercury because we had all we
didn’t have flight experience. But beginning with Gemini—
MCDIVITT: Yeah. They were all rookies! Yeah.
WARD: —we had the opportunity to fly an experienced space traveler as a commander, but
you, Borman, and Armstrong were all selected for your first flight as a commander. And—
MCDIVITT: Yeah. I hadn’t focused on that. I will tell you a funny story about the—getting
picked to fly on Gemini IV. I was called in and told I was going to command it, and then
some time later it was announced at an astronaut pilots’ meeting and then finally they were
going to make the public announcement. And so, I thought I’d tell my kids about it.
So, one Saturday morning we were sitting at our—sitting there having breakfast at a
long table we had. And so, we finally got to this dramatic moment and I said, “Kids, I’m
going to tell you something really important.” And, let’s see, this was in about ’64 or so. I
think they were, like, eight and seven and five or so. And so, I tell them that, you know,
“You know that dad’s an astronaut and the astronauts fly in space. I just want to let you
know that I’m going to fly in space soon.” And my older boy, Mike, who was probably
seven or eight, says, “Oh yeah, dad, I heard that at school.” And then my daughter Ann said,
“Oh yeah, dad, I heard that at school, too.” And my son Patrick said, “Dad, there’s a fly in
the milk bottle.” He was really a—!
WARD: Do you have any inkling as to how the decision was made to put you on that flight?

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