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James A. McDivitt oral history (Doug Ward)

NASA Johnson Space Center · 1999-06-29 · 110 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is a NASA Johnson Space Center Oral History Project transcript of astronaut James A. McDivitt, interviewed by Doug Ward at Elk Lake, Michigan, on 29 June 1999. McDivitt talks about flying F-86s in Korea, test pilot work at Edwards, and his first class at the Aerospace Research Pilot School. He also covers turning down Dyna-soar, joining NASA in 1962 and learning to be an Apollo Program Manager. He describes the Change Board and says decisions were not second-guessed.

Johnson Space Center Oral History Project James A. McDivitt
29 June 1999 12-22
to share documentation? A reluctance on the part of the astronaut management to let flight
controllers have access to checklists, things like that, or was that pretty well smoothed over
and working when you got involved in it?
MCDIVITT: It’s an interesting question. I—when you say the Astronaut Office, that implies
that there’s this homogeneous, uniform opinion which never existed. It may today, but I
don’t know. It never existed then. So, there was always disagreement amongst the
astronauts about what the relationship with the flight controller ought to be. I got along with
them great! And I would share anything with them. It didn’t make any difference what they
wanted. I mean, I didn’t have any secrets. And so, I never had a problem like that. But
some of the guys—some of the astronauts didn’t get along that well with them!
WARD: Do you think—
MCDIVITT: And some of the astronauts didn’t get along that well with the contractors,
because they were, I thought, overbearing, demanding, idiotic, unreasonable, and I mean, that
didn’t contribute anything to anybody whatsoever.
WARD: So, in your view, that would have been more of an individual difference with
commanders than it was a policy?
MCDIVITT: An individual relationship, yes. My crews always got along great with them. As
a matter of fact, I always looked at it as sort of a flight team, whether it was Flight
Operations Directorate or Flight Crew Directorate, or whatever we called them in those days.
It was sort of a flight team.

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