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James A. McDivitt oral history (Doug Ward)

NASA Johnson Space Center · 1999-06-29 · 110 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is a NASA Johnson Space Center Oral History Project transcript of astronaut James A. McDivitt, interviewed by Doug Ward at Elk Lake, Michigan, on 29 June 1999. McDivitt talks about flying F-86s in Korea, test pilot work at Edwards, and his first class at the Aerospace Research Pilot School. He also covers turning down Dyna-soar, joining NASA in 1962 and learning to be an Apollo Program Manager. He describes the Change Board and says decisions were not second-guessed.

  • p. 6 …t a definition of the roles and missions of all the different military services and NASA…
  • p. 29 …control, there was no doubt in my mind what my decision would have been. The Mission…
  • p. 37 …There wasn’t anybody in that Mission Control Center who knew anything about it, so there…
  • p. 40 …Your flight—your Gemini IV mission—was also the first flight where Mission Control was located…
  • p. 61 …But sometimes they just got out of control. WARD: Getting back to the effects of the…
  • p. 68 …We made very few changes to it for the original missions. We made a lot
  • p. 69 …McDivitt 29 June 1999 12-69 of changes to it later on for the longer mission…
  • p. 90 …And nobody was getting this live feed of us possibly losing an Apollo mission. And when…
  • p. 91 …One of which was to allow the reporters in Mission Control with access to the flight…
Johnson Space Center Oral History Project James A. McDivitt
29 June 1999 12-2
my last one 2 hours after the armistice was signed—with a lot of trepidation. Nobody wants
to get shot down after the war is over! But anyway, I did it. They allowed us to—they were
very generous. They allowed us to fight for another 12 hours. So anyway, when that was
over I came back and I was in a fighter squadron in Maine, then another one in New Jersey,
and then I went back to school at the University of Michigan.
WARD: To what I think would be a stellar academic career. As I recall, you graduated top of
your class.
MCDIVITT: Yes.
WARD: One would get the impression that perhaps the military experience really gave you
that sense of purpose.
MCDIVITT: Well, it focused me a lot more. I think probably the thing that really focused me
was when I was going through pilot training. If you were an aviation cadet that came into the
program as a civilian, if you washed out of flying school you went back to being a civilian.
Because the Korean War was on, there were a lot of people trying to join the Air Force and
get into pilot training. And in a class—entry time from when you applied to when you got
into a class, sort of—you had to stretch out. And my deferment from the draft was fixed, and
the class I was going to get into stretched out past that time. So, I was notified by the Air
Force I had a choice of either letting that deferment expire and taking my chances on whether
the Army would call me before the Air Force did or joining the Air Force as a private. But I
elected to do that. And then now I was already in the military, and if I washed out of pilot
training I went back to being a private or an enlisted man for four years. And four years to

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