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James A. McDivitt oral history (Doug Ward)

NASA Johnson Space Center · 1999-06-29 · 110 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is a NASA Johnson Space Center Oral History Project transcript of astronaut James A. McDivitt, interviewed by Doug Ward at Elk Lake, Michigan, on 29 June 1999. McDivitt talks about flying F-86s in Korea, test pilot work at Edwards, and his first class at the Aerospace Research Pilot School. He also covers turning down Dyna-soar, joining NASA in 1962 and learning to be an Apollo Program Manager. He describes the Change Board and says decisions were not second-guessed.

  • p. 10 …Air Force Headquarters was expecting it. And so, he yanked me off the X-15 Program…
  • p. 75 …I’m from Headquarters!” And I said, “Get out of here!” So, he left. And 20…
  • p. 76 …investigation.” I got a call from NASA Headquarters in my office just before I left, saying…
  • p. 78 …Samuel C. Phillips, who was the NASA Headquarters Apollo Program Director, and somebody else, I don…
  • p. 86 …Rocco Petrone was the NASA Headquarters Apollo Program Director. And this sort of has to do…
  • p. 91 …think, went all the way to NASA Headquarters, was to permit the press to hold in…
Johnson Space Center Oral History Project James A. McDivitt
29 June 1999 12-13
effort. He was really a nice guy. I like John.
The other guys were sort of involved in either flying or getting ready for a flight or
having been in a flight, and so it was a—they were kind of over here, and we were kind of
over here. There was no animosity. Don’t misunderstand me. And they tried to help as best
they could; but they had other things going on. And so, we sort of did our thing and they did
their thing.
It wasn’t until we really got into Gemini that we started working together. Gus was
looking after that. So, everybody that had any engineering responsibilities in Gemini always
worked with Gus to make sure that it was compatible with the other stuff that was going on.
WARD: How would you characterize Slayton and Shepard as managers at that early point in
their career?
MCDIVITT: I’d just as soon not talk about my opinions of those guys.
WARD: Okay.
MCDIVITT: I mean, they’re both dead. And—
WARD: Let that go.
MCDIVITT: Yeah.
WARD: Was there any particular thing that stands out in your mind or that you recall about
the meshing of the military culture of the astronaut corps with the civilian nature of an
agency like NASA?

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