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This is the printed transcript of a July 26, 2023 hearing before the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability's Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs, chaired by Rep. Glenn Grothman. Ryan Graves, David Grusch and retired Navy Commander David Fravor testified on unidentified anomalous phenomena. Members pressed for transparency, whistleblower protection and better pilot reporting. Graves described a near mid-air collision with a dark cube inside a clear sphere off the Eastern Seaboard.
12 I became a whistleblower through a PPD–19 urgent concern fil- ing in May 2022 with the intelligence community inspector general following concerning reports from multiple esteemed and credentialed current and former military and intelligence commu- nity individuals that the U.S. Government is operating with se- crecy above congressional oversight with regards to UAPs. My testimony is based on information I have been given by indi- viduals with a long-standing track record of legitimacy and service to this country, many of whom also have shared compelling evi- dence in the form of photography, official documentation, and clas- sified oral testimony to myself and many of my various colleagues. I have taken every step I can to corroborate this evidence over a period of 4 years while I was with the UAP Task Force and do my due diligence on the individuals sharing it. It is because of these steps, I believe strongly in the importance of bringing this in- formation before you. I am driven by a commitment of both to truth and transparency, rooted in our inherent duty to uphold the United States Constitu- tion and protect the American people. I am asking Congress to hold our government to this standard and thoroughly investigate these claims. But as I stand here under oath now, I am speaking to the facts as I have been told them. In the U.S. Air Force in my National Re- connaissance Office—NRO—reservist capacity, I was a member of the UAP Task Force from 2019 to 2021. I served at the NRO operations center on the Director’s briefing staff, which included the coordination of the Presidential daily brief and supporting a variety of contingency operations, which I was the reserve intelligence division chief backup. In 2019, the UAP Task Force Director asked me to identify all special access programs and controlled access programs, also known as SAPs and CAPs, we needed to satisfy our congressionally mandated mission and we would direct report at the time to the DEP/SecDef. At the time, due to my extensive executive level intelligence sup- port duties I was cleared to literally all relevant compartments and in a position of extreme trust both in my military and civilian ca- pacities. I was informed in the course of my official duties of a multi-dec- ade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program to which I was denied access to those additional read-ons when I requested it. I made the decision based on the data I collected to report this information to my superiors and multiple inspectors general and, in effect, becoming a whistleblower. As you know, I have suffered retaliation for my decision, but I am hopeful that my actions will ultimately lead to a positive outcome of increased transparency. Thank you, and I am happy to answer your questions. Mr. GROTHMAN. Thank you. Commander Fravor?
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