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This is the printed record of a July 26, 2023 hearing of the House Oversight and Accountability Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs, published by the U.S. Government Publishing Office as Serial No. 118-53. Witnesses Ryan Graves, David Grusch and retired Commander David Fravor testified about unidentified anomalous phenomena. Members pressed for government transparency, criticized AARO's classified budget and stigma against reporting, and Graves described a near miss with a dark cube inside a clear sphere.
3 to UAPs. I thank of you for your presence here today and for your dedication to safeguarding the interests of the American people. I look forward to your testimony. Now I am going to turn it over for two and a half or 3 minutes to Representative Burchett from Tennessee. Mr. BURCHETT. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you all for being here. I want to thank everybody for making this happen today and I want to remind everybody this is a nonpartisan issue. This has nothing to do with party politics. I think the cover up goes a lot deeper than that. I also want to thank my colleagues, Representative Anna Paulina Luna, sitting beside me here; Jared Moskowitz, my friend across the aisle, who has an incredible mind, and I am anxious to hear his questions; my buddy, Eric Burlison. And it is not in my notes here but Matt Gaetz—if it had not been for Matt Gaetz, myself, him, and Luna would still be down at Eglin Air Force Base trying to get some answers. He has got an incredible legal mind. Also, I know I saw out in the crowd there George Knapp, my buddy, Jeremy Corbell. They are not witnesses, but they have pro- vided some statements on this subject, and I seek unanimous con- sent to enter those statements into the record, Mr. Chairman. Mr. GROTHMAN. Without objection. Mr. BURCHETT. I also would like to enter in—I understand now that this is unclassified, and it is public record but as we all know that is sometimes difficult for the public to get a hold of—a report, defense intelligence reference documents, ‘‘Advanced Space Propul- sion Based on Vacuum (spacetime metric) Engineering,’’ some light reading for some of our Members. Mr. GROTHMAN. Without objection. Mr. BURCHETT. Thank you. You know, Mr. Knapp wrote since 1969, the position of our military has been that UFOs posed no threat to national security and are not worthy of further study. I would say that is the biggest understatement of the decade. He also goes on to talk about the dismissive attitude is at odds with what was revealed in documents, reports, and internal memos. And Mr. Corbell says as he writes these words, the UFO is emerging as a major topic of global importance. I can state that as a fact out there. I met a fellow who came in here all the way from Denmark to be here for this meeting. So, this is huge. This is worldwide. I think we suspect what is going on. But I would also like to thank the Members of Congress who have supported our efforts to make this hearing happen. Some have even confided in me that they have had UFO sightings of their own. Those Members, of course, some of them wish to remain anony- mous and I will keep it that way. But also, finally, I would like to thank these three brave witnesses here. They took an oath to up- hold the Constitution of the United States and daggum it they are doing it and we owe them a debt of gratitude. [Applause.] Mr. BURCHETT. You all quit clapping. You are cutting in on my time. [Laughter.]
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