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Flight Engineer Tsukuba interview, 15 Jan 1987

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This FAA interview transcript, released through the National Archives and The Black Vault, records Pete Beckner of the FAA questioning JAL flight engineer Yoshie Tsukuba on January 15, 1987, with Sayoko Mimoto interpreting. The subject is the UFO that Captain Terauchi reported on November 17, 1986. Tsukuba says he saw clusters of white or amber lights ahead of the aircraft for about ten minutes, plus a fainter second light and a return on the weather radar. He adds that he was still unsure whether it was a UFO.

Tsukuba: Alpha 7,000. It is made by Minoruta.
is called in America.
I wonderwhat it
Beckner: Have you seen this kind of thing before? Was this the
first time anything of this nature has happened to you?
Tsukuba: Yes, this was the first time.
Beckner: Who first sighted the object?
Tsukuba: I do not know which person picked it up first. I was
making a landing data. The Captain told us to see if
there is a some kind of object outside.
Beckner: Did you see the radar?
Tsukuba: When the Captain told me to look, I could see the
radar.
Beckner: Were you able to see it on radar? What did you see on
the radar?
Tsukuba: Yes, a green dot like, not exactly like a dot. It was
not a dot, but stream like, I think the range was about
10 miles. I do not think it (on the radar> was the
same lights as the one I saw in front of us.
Beckner: How was the intensity of the lights? Did the intensity
of the objects' lights change?
Tsukuba: Basically the same. I cannot describe it. Not even in
Japanese. The first one did not change. The second
light was very difficult to see. It was so vagua.
Beckner: Was any other target picked up on radar?
Tsukuba: I cannot remember.
difficult to see.
The tilt angle of the radar was
Beckner: Difficult to remember, on the radar, did you have to
look for the object?
Tsukuba: I identified immediately the one in front of us •
Beckner: At the time of sighting, how were the lighting
conditions outside?
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