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First Officer Tamefuji interview, Peter Beckner, 5 Jan 1987

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This FAA record of interview documents a session held January 5, 1987, at the Federal Building in Anchorage, Alaska. Inspector Peter E. Beckner of AAL-207 questioned JAL First Officer Takanori Tamefuji, with interpreter Sayoko Mimoto, about the November 17, 1986 sighting. Tamefuji said he saw very bright, multicolored lights resembling head-on traffic for about five to ten minutes, along with a large green echo on the airborne radar. His seat position kept him from seeing it after that. He rejected reflection and weather explanations and said he was certain he saw something.

P. Beckner Okay
T. Tamefuji and I use ah, humm ••• how should I say?
s. Mi moto I will not - I do not need to wear glasses in daily life.
P. Beckner Okay, okay. Now - the time of the incident, when - when you guys
first saw the objects, ah what were the lighting conditions
outside? Was it dark . . .
T. Tamefuji Hum
P. Beckner . or was it dusk? Or was the sun still up er, how would you
describe . . .?
T. Tamefuji Just after sunset .
P. Beckner Just after sunset.
T. Tamefuji (unintelligible)
P. Beckner Right
T. Tamefuji dark, dark red.
P. Beckner Dark red, okay.
T. Tamefuji But almost dark I must say night .
P. Beckner Okay, you could see the stars real clearly?
T. Tamefuji Yes, yes.
P. Beckner Okay. Okay, was the - what you saw - was it real obvious to you?
T. Tamefuji Yes
P. Beckner Okay. Ah, at what point did you see it on the radar?
T. Tamefuji Humm, what point mean?
P. Beckner What - you saw the lights, and then how much later before you saw
something on the radar? On your - your radar in the aircraft, or
did you see it on the radar?
T. Tamefuji I just don't understand.
S. Mimoto When did you see the object on the radar?
T. Tamefuji Oh , and , hum ah, I can't tell you exactly
P. Beckner Well ah •••
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