FBI file: UFO, UFO Part 15

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ground were and all in all said, to be con that what we had shown them are ships of extraterrestrial origin they needed more positive proof or evidence. One person came up with the scout being a volkswagen, you know how they have to make jokes. But we were treated very nice and in respect, - one person said to Ingrid, you have something there, meaning the films -

"I could say that they had much knowledge, but could not give themselves away. They did not ridicule us, nor the films, nor the whole UFO idea. I did not go to NASA to convince them, but to consult them."

he added:

"This meeting with NASA was a different matter altogether than the Senate Space committee 2 years ago with Madeline and Ingrid, where they received more "Hell" than anything else -"

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On March 20th, Fred sent me a photosat letter from the UFO spokesman at the Pentagon in Washington D.C. (see back pages)

"DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE Washington 20330

Office Of The Secretary

Mar 17 1967

Dear Mr. Stockling:

Your letter concerning your unidentified flying object (UFO) film finally reached my office - - Office of Information for Project Blue Book, the Air Force UFO program.

The Air Force would be very interested in reviewing your film. If you would get in touch with me at the Pentagon, we will arrange a showing for any Monday which is convenient for you. My number is 0 - - - - or 0 - - - -.

Thank you for offering to show your film; I am looking forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely

signed. George P. Freeman, Jr. Lt. Colonel, USAF.

Chief, Civil Branch

Community Relations Division Office of Information.

Mr. Fred Stockling.

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Alexandria, Virginia 22312."

Fred wrote of the visit:

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"Our Pentagon visit was Monday March 20th at 2 p.m. at Colonel Freeman's office. - Madeleine came along - Several high commission officers reviewed the Sept. 7th film three times, and Colonel Freeman stated: "This is the best film I've seen yet." and "I have never seen anything like this before." He told me to inform the UFO investigation committee in Colorado - (the new University of Colorado

UFO investigation study. - R.C.) - and them some pictures.

"Madalaine's and G.A.'s films were already known to them - from T.V. - and no comment was made on them. They seemed to know all three of us - Ingrid was there - they gave this impression.

"The Colonel said: "What about the scoutships we are supposed to have in Dayton?" so we answered, "What about and how about it?" They did not confirm anything or otherwise. But here too we were treated respectfully, and returned the same to them -."

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Later, I received a fuller description of events.

When I took the film September 7th, we were between Mannheim and Frankfurt traveling North. The time was about 11.45 a.m., no clouds, about seventy degrees, Fahranheit. Although power-lines and trees were flying by, while I took the film, if there was a station it surely swished by so fast that it was impossible to make out any signs, etc. In this case you have to take my word for it. I was already before alerted of the Brothers before the film, and became aware of a group of 10 to 12 cigarette shaped objects high in the sky (12 o'clock up.) I jumped back to grab the camera, a 8 mm Ravers, 20 mm powerzoom, Chicago build and opened the window all the way to eliminate any reflections and started filming. All in all, 6 groups of ten to twelve spacecraft appeared one after another and moved along the sky like Dolphins in the water, as an example. Appearing and disappearing, the armada traveled to about 9 o'clock (position) and disappeared completely, giving me the privilege to take about 23 feet of Kodak color film.

"There were quite some people on the train, some of them looking out of their windows, becoming aware of the objects. As we could see they all had big question-marks on their faces. They had never seen anything like this before. I might add, there was no fear on their faces. Ingrid and myself also Glenn, we could hardly believe it, ever to be presented with such an opportunity of taking that many ships on film and all at once. We stood on the window, Ingrid saying only, "oh, my God" and our every hair was standing up at this wonderful sight. We will never forget this experience and are surely grateful for it. -"

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I wrote to Fred, asking him if I could use his pictures and correspondence in UFO CONTACT. He wrote back:

"You can go ahead and use what you feel is right concerning my visit to NASA and the pictures --

"As you know, my work in this cause has no connections in pleasing my Ego, and therefore it does not matter to me if my name is used or not. Important is the work, not us. -

"We all know George Adamski has given much to this world in knowledge and information and I feel