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FBI file 62-HQ-83894, section 10

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This FBI file section, serial 448 onward of 62-HQ-83894, gathers UFO correspondence from 1966 to 1977. It includes J. Edgar Hoover's reply to Florence C. Dow of Goffstown, New Hampshire, who had asked whether the Amalgamated Flying Saucer Clubs of America was backed by communists. Her enclosed July 1966 issue of the AFSCA journal is also in the file. Later items are a 1977 Air Force UFO fact sheet on the end of Project Blue Book and a White House inquiry, to which the FBI replied that it has no jurisdiction over UFO sightings.

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ground were and all in all said, to be convinced that UFO investigation study, - R.C .) - and send them
what we had shown them are ships of extraterrestrial some pictures.
origin they needed more positive proof or evidence. " Madeleine's and G.A .' s films were already known
One person came up with the scout being a volks to them - from T.V. - and no comment was made on
wagen , you know how they have to make jokes. But them. They seemed to know all three of us - Ingrid
we were tre ate d very nice and in respect, - one was there - they gave this impression.
person said to Ingrid , you have something there , - " The Colon el said: " What about the scoutships
meaning the films - we are supposed to have in Dayton? " so we ans
" I could see that they had much knowledge , but wered , " What about and how about it?" They did
could not give themselves away. They did not rid not confirm anyt hing or otherwise. But here too we
icule us, nor the films , nor the whole UFO idea. I were treated respectfully, and returned the same to
did not go to NASA to convince them, but to cons them
ult them ." UNQUOTE.
He added:
" This meeting with NASA was a different matter Later, I received a fuller description of events.
" When I took the film September 7th, we werealtogether than the Senate Space committee 2 years between Mannheim and Frankfurt traveling North. Theago with Madeleine and Ingrid, where they received time was about 11.45 a.m., no clouds, about seventymore " Hell " than anything else -"
UNQUOTE. degrees, Fahrenheit. Although power-lines and trees
were flying by, while I took the film , If there was a
On March 20th , Fred sent me a photostat letter station it surely swished by so fast that it was imp
from the UFO spokesman at the Pentago n in Wa ossible to make out any signs, etc. In this case you
shington D.C. (see back pages) have to take my word for it. I was already before
alerted of the Brothers before the film , and bec ame
" DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE aware of a group of 10 to 12 cigarette shaped
Washington 20330 objects high in 'the sky (12 o 'clock up.) I jumped
back to grab the camera, a 8 mm Revere , 30 mmOffice Of The Secretary powerzoom, Chicago build and opened the window
Dear Mr. Steckling :
Mar 17 1967 all the way to eliminate any reflections and started
filming. All in all , 6 groups of ten to twelve space
Your letter concerning your unidentified flying craft appeared one after another and moved along
object (UFO) film finally reached my office - - - the sky like Dol phins in the water, as an example.
Office of Information for Project Blue Book, the Air Appearing and disappearing, the armada traveled to
Force UFO program . about 9 o' clo ck (posit ion) and disappeared complet
The Air Force would be very interested in review ely, giving me the privilege to take about 23 feet of
ing your film. If you would get in touch with me at Kodak color film.
the Pentagon, we wi ll arrange a showing for any " There were quite some people on the train , some
Monday which is convenient for you . My number is of them looki ng out of their windows , becoming
0 - - - - or 0 - - - - . aware of the objects . As we could see they all had
Th ank you for offering to show your f ilm ; I am big question-marks on their faces. They had never
looking forward to hearing from you . seen anything like this before. I might add , there
was no fear on their faces . Ingrid and myself also
Sincerely Glenn, we co :dd hardly believe it, ever to be pres
signed. George P. Freeman , Jr. ented with such an opportunity of taking that many
Lt. Colonel , USAF. ships on film and all at once . We stood on the win
Chief, Civil Branch dow, Ingrid saying only, " oh, my God " and our every
Commun ity Relations Division hair was standing up at this wonderful sight. We will
Office of Information . never forget this experience and are surely grateful
Mr. Fred Steckling, for it. -"
UNQUOTE.
I wrote to Fred , asking him if I could use his pict
UNQUOTE. ures and correspondence in UFO CONTACT. He
Fred wrote of the visit :
Alexandria, Virginia 22312."
wrote back:
" Our Pentagon visit was Monday March 20th at " You can go ahead and use what you feel is right
2 p.m. at Colonel Freeman 's office. - Madeleine concerning my visit to NASA and the pictures -
came alo ng - Several hig h commission officers rev " As you know, my work in this cause has no conn
iewed the Sept. 7th film three times , and Colonel ections in pleasing my Ego, and therefore it does
Freeman stated: " This is the best film I've seen yet. " not matter to me if my name is used or not. Import
and " I have never seen an ything like this before. " ant is the work, not us. -
He told me to inform the UFO investigation comm " We all know George Adamski has given much to
ittee in Colorado - (- the new University of Colorado this world in knowledge and informatio n and I feel
ufo contact 135
At that time the A ir Force termed the Heflin pict
ure a hoax.
The " Bluebook" report said Heflin 's photo did not
correspond to his description of the round, saucer
like object. LiteratureBut since then the Air Force has commissioned
the independent study by the University of Colorado
at Boulder.
From : "San Francisco Chronicle",
Friday, March 10, 1967. »Piece for a jig- saw«
Credit : Theodore Gray Hullett, San Francisco, By LEONAR D G. CARM P., M.S.I.A. A.R.Ae .S.California, U.S. A .
author of " Sp ace, Gravity and the
* Flying Saucer.''
Here is a book about " flying saucers " which can
be of immense interest to both the »converted " and
Two PCs spot a »saucers«
Two policemen saw an oval-shaped object flash to the " open - minded ", to the lay-person looking for
through the sky yesterday. The officers said the more corroboration to back up his beliefs in the
saucer-like object flew over Strood, Kent, at about reality of visiting space-ships, and to the technically
1,000 feet - and had a tail of blue and silvery stars. mi nded man w ho may wel l be rather surprised at the
Later there was a simi lar report from Sevenoaks . wealth of detail of a highly technical nature included
(Kent.) in this work.
Police at Rochester said : " The authorities have Leonard Cramp , who for many years has worked
been told ." in both aerodynamics and , more recently, with the
From : " Daily Sketch ", London , March 25th, 1967.
*
new design principles of the Hovercraft, has succ
eeded in writing a bookunderstood , by any person
of normal intelligence who can read the En glish
language .
»The flying saucer that " Piece For A Jig-saw" does, in truth , offer a piece
- a very large piece - of that enigmatic jig-saw
Andrew saw in Stamford Sky« puzzle which has undulated and returned along 180
degrees through head-lines of the world ' s press forAndrew, the eight-year-old son of Mr. and Mrs. the past 20 years . Cramp himself has worked onT. H. Hyde, of 59 Scotgate, Stamford , c laims to material for this book for over half that time. It ishave see n a " flying saucer" over Stamford on Tues 12 years since he submitted to the pu blic "Space,day. A ug. 2. He was in his back garden at the time, Gravity and the Flying Saucer"; - this book is aand t his is how he sketched and described what he natural and e levating follow -up.saw:
" I saw this object in the sky twice this morning Written in a style which is as open and as lacking
between about half-past ten and a quarter to eleven. in pomposity as the author himself, one finds a patt
It was going very quickly above the clouds . The ern developing from each chapter to the next, as he
first time I saw it, it was travelling in a N. W . takes us from his brief but concise "back ground
direction, and then about ten minutes later it came material " of orthodox aerodynamics, curves into a
back. high trajectory through the experimental X-15 and
" It was then going in a S. E. direction, and it the family of rockets , and into the deep blue . One
made no sound. the shape was round , with black is almost shocked to find with what ease C ramp
circ les looking like ship 's port- holes round the brings us down - not in a capsule supported by
middle. There were little things looking like landing great billowing parachutes, but gently landing in a
wheels on the bottom. field , any field , ready for instant take-off to a far-off
" There was a cloud of yellow stuff coming out hovering mother-ship.
of the back and there was a ring round the middle At least, the mother-ship is there by implication,
of the object.'' because Mr. Cramp, as he says , having " set myself
UNQUOTE. the task of discovering the truth as an engineer",
From: A Stamford paper, Lines. England. arrives, after a volume full of investigation and ex
A ugust 1966. perimentation, at the last chapter which is entitled:
" Vindication Of A Scout Ship.''
The last paragraph of the seco nd from last chapter
might well sum up a very large part of the UFOA friend is a person w ho knows all about story. It also sums up the author, a man who succyou - and still likes you. Elbert Hubbard. eeded in forming a large group of UFO enthusiasts
from a very hard core of technology, men who know

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