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FBI file 62-HQ-83894 Flying Discs, section 3

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This section of FBI file 62-HQ-83894 on flying discs collects 1947 FBI memoranda, teletypes and Army Air Forces intelligence papers. It includes F. M. Johnson's report of discs near Mt. Adams on June 24, 1947, the Maury Island claims of Harold Dahl and Fred Crisman, the fatal B-25 crash at Kelso, Washington that killed investigators Davidson and Brown, MIT findings that New Hampshire fragments were ordinary cast iron, and A. C. Urie's Twin Falls sighting. It ends with the Bureau discontinuing its disc investigations.

  • p. 33 …They sent a cigar box of these formations to one Ray Palmer, editor of the Venture…
  • p. 34 …Relative to Arnold, Dahl and Chrisman stated that he was paid by Ray Palmer of the…
  • p. 51 …Just after our phone conversati on HAROLD DAHL wrote a l etter to RAY PALMER setting…
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100 feet 1n diameter, circular in shape, a.Ad it appeared that
there was a hoJ..e in the center ot each as he could see the sky
through this hole. He al.so mentioned that on the inside ot the
circle or the hole, ~t portholes were visible. Their speed was
negligible as tne1 appeared to hover over a give11. spot. One ot
these objects appeared to be in trouble. Another object came
over and appeared to make contact. Attar making this oontact tor
approximately two minu~es, it rose to its original position.
At this time the obj eot that appeared to be in trouble
seemed to throw a lot ot debris from one ot the portholes. Those
objects then disappeared trom view. Some or this debris that
landed broke 1.o. the wheelhouse of the boat, the spotlight, and
th.o kl:axo.o.. Yh.ilo this dobris t:a:; 1'nll1ng• '03- boy nd :Jr.. Knight
got ott the boat and h!d under some logs . This debris that tell
killed our dog and a sea gull. I asked Ur . Dahl what was done with
the dog. He ma.de the statement they threw the dog into the water .
This story was told to !Ir. Crismon. who the next day
went out to this Island to check on this story. He verified the
taot ot the damage to the boat. also to the fact that there appeared
to be quite a tev, pieces ot ai.ther rock or metal on the shore. Ur.
Crismon also stated that while he was over there investigating on
Maury Island, b.e also saw a disk. This disk was of the same sha,Pe
and contour as the objects explained by Mr. Dahl.
At this point Kr. Arnold clarified for me as to the reasons
he as 1.11vest1gat1.ng this story . Jlr. Arnold stated that he reoo!ved
a lett er from a Ur. Raymond Palm.er. supposedly editor or the Venture
Press, Bvanston; Illinois. The gist of this letter was that Ur.
Palmer received a l.etter from Mr. Dahl and J!r. Crismon,_ also a
package ot these tragments that iere tound on Maury Island. Kr .
Pal.mer also made the state:nent 1n the letter that the Chicago
University tailed to ana.J..yze these tragcients and that. would Ur. Arnold
please investigate the story. lb.". Arnold was sent a /estern Union
check tor $200 .00 to take care of any expense that he might incur
while making this investigation_.
Mr . Arnold had made a telephone call to Hamilton ?ield to
contact a Captain Davidson and a Lieutenant Brown. who were with
A-2 Intelligence at Harnflt on 71eld, asking them would they make a
trip to Tacol,'0.8. to also listen to this story of Dahl and Crismon.
When Mr. Arnold acquainted me with the fact that he had made this
phone oall in front ot Mr. Dahl, llr. Dahl made the statement that
he would not tell this story to anybody in Army Intelligence . I
mo.de the stat ement to llr. Dahl that it he felt this way. that he
should not be ln the room when these two Intelligence offioors
arrived. Mr. Dahl thought this was an excellent idea.

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