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FBI file 62-HQ-83894 Flying Discs, section 3

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This section of FBI file 62-HQ-83894 on flying discs collects 1947 FBI memoranda, teletypes and Army Air Forces intelligence papers. It includes F. M. Johnson's report of discs near Mt. Adams on June 24, 1947, the Maury Island claims of Harold Dahl and Fred Crisman, the fatal B-25 crash at Kelso, Washington that killed investigators Davidson and Brown, MIT findings that New Hampshire fragments were ordinary cast iron, and A. C. Urie's Twin Falls sighting. It ends with the Bureau discontinuing its disc investigations.

. August 19, 1947
call. After returning to the Hotel room, a Tacoma Times reporter called
attempting to gain information, but they did not give him any. Later, a ~r.
~'OPJBILO of the United Press called and ~~ITH spoke to him on the telephone
but refused to give out any infonnation. s:rITH further relates that while
the four men were in the room at this t~~e, an envelope was shoved under the
door and that he retrieved it from the floor . s.J:ITH states that the appearance
of this envelope seemed to startle CPIS?.!AN considerably and tbat in fact, CRIS:UiN
turned white as a sheet until s:;ITH read the note unsigned ,,hich was a commu
nication to the Hotel advising that a strike of Hotel employees was eminent and
~ that guests should not expect room and telephone service much longer. Shortly
after this incident DAHL and CRI~U~N left the Hotel room after promising to
take f.fu'JCLD and S''ITH to !!aury Island the following morning, (Saturday) . ARNOW
and SiITTII then went out for dinner and on their return, ruITH found a note in
the box requesting him to call a certain telephone number. Pe did this from
the Lotel room and was answered by LANTZ, Tacoma Times reporter who requested
SMITH to go out and call him from a !)ay station. SUI'rH compl ained and was.
informed by L:'1.NTZ that two anonymous telephone calls had been received by
him that a discussion regarding flying discs had been taking place in room 502
at the ,finthrop Hotel which involved ~nny Intelligence officers . From the
information which LANTZ had received, s::ITI-i was convinced that the anonymous
caller must have been present at the discussion also, as L.i\NT~ was seemingly
in possession of pertinent remarks which had been made in the room. S!.ITTH
states that he did not give L.NTZ any further information and that in conclu
sion of the call, he returned to the Hotel room and he and ARNOID retired for
the night .
On Saturday morning, august 2, 1947 ~IITH redeived a tele
phone call from ~• .UFICE RODDY in Chicago, but l,as unable to give him any
further infonnation. en 'ITH advised him, ho,·1ever, that he would call him back
at 2:30 that afternoon. DAHL then called from a coffee shop nearby and ARr'OID
and S!.:ITH joined DA!'L, CRI.51.!AN and an unknovm man in the Coffee Shop for
breakfast . The unknown person was discussing some lumber business with DAHL
and left after breakfast. On leaving the coffee shop, S:lITH asked D;J-IL about
the negatives of the photographs wrich he claimed to have taken of the flying
discs. DAHL said the negatives were in the glove compartment of his car, but
a search of the instant elove compartment was fruitless . The four then pro
ceeded in CRIS:.!AN 1 s car to the dock where they were to embark for Haury Island.
The boat, however, could not be started and the trip was postponed until later
in the day. "hile at the dock, however, s:lITH asked to be shown the damage
to the boat which had allegedly occurred when the fragments showered dovm on
:.ra.ury Island. CRIS1:Af'! pointed out what may have been repairs to the windshield
and lights on the boat, but S!.!ITH was not personally sat isfied that these repairs
were made as a result of any such incident . C1Is.>:AN and DAHL then drove APr,rom
and ~IITH back to the Hotel at approximately 10:45 A. U. and CRISiiAN told them
he would call them later on and that they would go to !!aury Island . On return
ing to the Hotel, S:lITH called LA'JTZ at the Tacoma Times as a result of llhich
call he and ARNOLD met L\NTZ at th.e Coffee Shop across the street from the
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