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FBI file 62-HQ-83894 Flying Discs, section 3

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This section of FBI file 62-HQ-83894 on flying discs collects 1947 FBI memoranda, teletypes and Army Air Forces intelligence papers. It includes F. M. Johnson's report of discs near Mt. Adams on June 24, 1947, the Maury Island claims of Harold Dahl and Fred Crisman, the fatal B-25 crash at Kelso, Washington that killed investigators Davidson and Brown, MIT findings that New Hampshire fragments were ordinary cast iron, and A. C. Urie's Twin Falls sighting. It ends with the Bureau discontinuing its disc investigations.

  • p. 33 . .,... . •... \,,- August 14, 1947 FLYING DISCS The 11 Tacoma News Tribune" and through them the United Press…
  • p. 34 …by a Tacoma Times reporter and the United Press Wireman at Tacoma giving information regarding t…
  • p. 36 …Five anonymous calls were received by a reporter, Tacoma Times, and the United Press ,;ire.man…
  • p. 37 …ER.~EL, Associated Press 1ireman, Tacoma, .ashington, advised that in the early part of June, 1947…
  • p. 38 …He stated that he talked to .:CRRELLO, the United Press a'ireman, Tacoma, who advised that…
  • p. 39 August 19, 1947 United Press .1ireman, stating that Captain DAVIDSON and Lieutenant BRO::N were the…
  • p. 40 …TED H0RRELL0, a United Press \fi reman, Tacoma, •..ashington furnished substantially the same information that was…
  • p. 43 …SMITH, 3027 Hest Laurehurst Drive, United Airlines pilot : It should be noted that Captain SMITH has…
  • p. 46 …Later, a ~r. ~'OPJBILO of the United Press called and ~~ITH spoke to him on the…
  • p. 47 …infonned that MORR.ELLO of the Unit ed Press had received another anonymous phone call at…
  • p. 48 …ORRELLO in the United Press Office. There they read the latest press releases and had a…
  • p. 56 …Marlllo of the United Press and said that one ot the parties tha t Mr . Arnqld…
  • p. 89 …G4 I ~ Office Men~~,•o;,,,dum • UNITED • GOVERNMENT 65- 477 Dir ector, FBI : August 27. 1947…
  • p. 93 …He informed that PArL LAND and MORELLO, United Press men at Tacoma, appeared to know all…
  • p. 102 VENTURE PRESS 305 STUDIO BUILDING 171 B SHERMAN AVENUE E VANSTON, ILL INO I S June…
  • p. 109 …tnoer in Ill.itloia, • Jolm Corlett 0 United Press corrospond..nnt of Boice, Iooibility trot all…
  • p. 139 …due to the fact that he has been ridiculed by the press to such en extent…
-• August 19, 1947
refuse to furnish any further infonnation.
On August 5, 1947 Special Aeent DAVID A. ~acCULLOCH was
contacted in the resident agency office, Tacoma, ,/ashington by _RSI) CRISMAN.
At this time CRISI:AN asked if the .3eattle Office was investigation the crash
of the B- 25 and he was infonned that no investigation was being conducted by
the Seattle Office. CRI~L\N at this time related in a rambling story that he
had picked up some strange rock formations v. '1ich he had forwarded to a f riend
of his in the University of Chicago to have analyzed and that later, in some
manner unknown to him, these rock formations had been reported as being frag
ments of a flying disc.
On .'\.ugust 7, 1947 FRZD CRIS.MN and H.' ROID DAHL were inter
viewed at the Tacoma resident agency office. Both DAHL and CRISJAN at first
denied any knowledge of how the rock fonnations which they had picked up to
have alalyzed became connected with the flying disc stories. Both denied
making any statement to anyone that these rock formations were portions of a
disc fragment . It v;as apparent from the start of the interview that DAHL and
CRIS'JAN were not telling their complete and true connection with the flying
disc story. They refused to give any definite infonnation as to what they said
or had done which caused them to become involved in a flying disc story, but
gave evasive answers and repeatedly stated that they had nothing to do with it
and were at a loss to understand ho~ they became connected with the flying disc
story. After considerable questioning, they stated that in the early part of
Jun¥they sent to R PAU:ER of t~ Ziff- Davis Publishing Company which published
t~Fantasy magazine in Chicago and the Venture magazine in Evanston, Illinois,
some rock fonnations' v,hich they had found on ~Jaury Island. They stated they
sent these fonnations, asking PAI.LlER to have them analyzed. They stated that
later PAIUER wrote and asked for more samples, advising he had failed to analyze
the samples. CRIS:1AN and DAHL stated they have never sent any additional samples
and that the next they heard regarding the rock formations which they had sent
PAillER was when he called HAROLD DAHL and asked if the rock formations could
have come from a flying disc. DAHL stated he made some remark that they possibly
could have come from a flying disc and that he immediately sat down and wrote
a letter to PAlliER, which was in the latter part of June in v1hich he stated
the material could have been portions of a flying disc . DAHL claimed that he
thought he told PAll!ER over the phone something about being in his boat vihen
he obtained these rock formations, but stated he could not recall what he had
written to PAI.MER and claimed that he passed the whole thing off as a joke.
CRI~:AN and DAHL were questioned at length in an attempt to obtain specific
inforraation as to exactly what each one had done with regard t o the rock forma
tions. However, each stated that the only thing they had done was tell RAY PAI11ER
the formations could have come from a flying disc in vie~ of the fact it appeared
11that ' s what he wanted them to say" . No definite infonnation could be obtained
from either DAHL or CRIS:AN as to what each specifically had done to start the
f l ying disc story.
The signed state:nent which was obtained from CRIS!IAN and

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