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FBI file 62-HQ-83894 Flying Discs, section 3

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This section of FBI file 62-HQ-83894 on flying discs collects 1947 FBI memoranda, teletypes and Army Air Forces intelligence papers. It includes F. M. Johnson's report of discs near Mt. Adams on June 24, 1947, the Maury Island claims of Harold Dahl and Fred Crisman, the fatal B-25 crash at Kelso, Washington that killed investigators Davidson and Brown, MIT findings that New Hampshire fragments were ordinary cast iron, and A. C. Urie's Twin Falls sighting. It ends with the Bureau discontinuing its disc investigations.

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Dear Sir:
The following, in~ral, are the facts }'~garding the
flying disc story that started by F:l vRI S'. ~ •r and 1-LROID A.-f.U1rnL which
subsequently resulted in news stories~ the acoma TLnes, the ~oise Stateaman
and th~hicaeo Times that a B- 25 carrying Army Intelligence officers was shot
down 'or sabotaged over Kelso~ ,ashington on August 1, 1947 because it was carry
ing so~e flying disc fragments .
The original story, as related by FRED CPIS!WJ and .l:L\ROLD _
DAHL, was to the effect that DAHL, while patrolling in his boat near .:.:aury
d land, ,ashington, sighted six flying discs, one of which fluttered to the
~ earth and disintegrated, showering his boat with fragments ,,nich caused some
the boat and killed his dog . H.,ROID D•.HL wrote a letter to RAY A.
•ff- Davis Company which publishes fantastic adventure magazines in
sen· g him f:r;pgments of the flying disk and relating the above story.
..,AL.:.!ER requested---1:rans- Radio ~.rews in C1 .icago to verify the story as related
by H.~ROID DAHL and FRZD CPIS:.W~legraphed RAY i .1,L'..IER confirming DAHL I s story.
RAY PAU.::ER then engaged im!f\TE . r'NOID,, .Boise, Idaho, who was the first to report
sighting the flying di sc and w om Ri,Y P,-.Il '.ER had previously made a contract for
story regarding the flying disc , to come to Tacoma and check the story as -"1_.
related by FRED CRIS:UN and HAROID DAHL. --KEI-J::ETH .\t,NOLD came to Tacona, ..ashington July 30, 1947 and
arranged for a meeting the following day, July 31, with FRED C"'.IS!.:Ai.' and H.\ROID
502, ,iinthrop Hotel, Tacomq,, :15.shington. KE:!NEJH' .•ttNOID also
called to attend the meeting Captain ~~v;r): S'ITTH, United Airlines Pilot who
had also reported seeing flying disc fragments , and Army Intelligence to attend
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