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FBI file 62-HQ-83894 Flying Discs, section 3

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This section of FBI file 62-HQ-83894 on flying discs collects 1947 FBI memoranda, teletypes and Army Air Forces intelligence papers. It includes F. M. Johnson's report of discs near Mt. Adams on June 24, 1947, the Maury Island claims of Harold Dahl and Fred Crisman, the fatal B-25 crash at Kelso, Washington that killed investigators Davidson and Brown, MIT findings that New Hampshire fragments were ordinary cast iron, and A. C. Urie's Twin Falls sighting. It ends with the Bureau discontinuing its disc investigations.

  • p. 9 …Depar tment of Justioe, ~ Seattle , Washington . \ Attached aUl'Ullary for11arded for your information. 1 Inola DONALD…
  • p. 33 …Smith of United Airlines of Seattle , Washington to attend this meeting. Dahl and Chrisman maintained they…
  • p. 34 • ' •. r .· ,, that the Seattle Post-Intelligencer had received from the Fire Chief at Harbor, Washington, to…
  • p. 37 …June, 1947 he was requested by the Seattle ,-~---w.ot::Lcci±c:....,..Jiu:nu:t..e…
  • p. 39 …at his home, 3027 ..est Laurelhurst Drive, Seattle at which time S:ilTH stated he had…
  • p. 41 …no investigation was being conducted by the Seattle Office. CRI~L\N at this time related…
  • p. 42 …when he drove S:!ITH to Seattle to get his car and thL>t DAHL went…
  • p. 43 …retained as an exhibit i n the Seattle Office . The following information was obtained by Special…
  • p. 44 …CRIS'!'!AN drove SllITH back to Boeing Field near Seattle where &.'ITH desired to pick up…
  • p. 48 …About an hour after his arrival in Seattle, which was approximately 7:30 F'. 1'. , LANTZ…
  • p. 49 …JOHN NOLAN at the County-City Building, Seattle and made a deposition of the facts relating…
  • p. 52 …in Seattl.e tor a very brief time and the second time in Boise, Idaho Y…
  • p. 54 …Crismon that I sb.ould like to pick up my oar in Seattle. llr. Crismon drove…
  • p. 56 …Notary Public In and for the state or aahington, residing at Seattle• •
  • p. 89 …FPB ERISJWJ' A1\Tr &\F0LTI "i,..,.__ l}ABL, TAC0V , ''."AS>fDTGTCltJ ·· · ~ SECURITY ,~ATTER - X Re Seattle…
  • p. 92 …He stated he flew to Seattle and got Captain Sl'ITH, and that Lieutenant ffP011N and…
  • p. 95 …considered as Referred Upon Completion to the Seattle Office . • JEJ:FPMc Encs . (RE~ISTERED) AIR 'f…
  • p. 115 ''t 1f FBI SEATTLE 8- 14- 47 5-18 PM . /2 ~ ~RECTOR FBI ROUTINE /.!., F~t…
  • p. 143 …FBI SEATTLE 8-14- 47 5-21 PM /4RECTOR FBI URGENT L. R. BRUMMETT. SID'l…
  • p. 175 …Report on a 'Flying Saucer 1 • 11 lfo action being ta}fen by Seattl e . - 2 (\
  • p. 178 …A,ttrICHOLS, Seattle:...,.w;s~ton, August 12, 1947 SECURITY MATI'ER X· The newspaper , Seattle…
  • p. 180 …102nd Street, Seattle, and their version of the object corresponded with that of NICHOLS and STANLEY…
  • p. 186 …writer that while driving between Ellensburg and Seattle, Washing• ton, about 3:30 P.M., on…
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Office _Memo \ .,,.,um • UNITED S1n. ... ..__ ;.ovERNMENT
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METAL FRAGMENTS O SERVED AT WEST RUDGE, NE11 HAMPSHIRE, JULY 7, 1947
SECURITY MA.Tr.ER (X
7-29-47
Referenoe is made to Boston teletype to tho Bureau datod July 18, 1947.
Dean John M. Bunker, the original inf'or111ant, baa advi:sed that a speotographio
examination has boen oomplotod of tho metal partioles referred to. Thay were
determined to be of ordinary oast iron whioh bad boen aubjeoted to a very
high degree of heat. The heat caused aoales to be formed on the oaet iron
whioh were originally thought to bo of some metallic alloy.
The soientist examining the partioloa oonoluded that if they had oome through
the air from any great altitude in as small pieoea aa they were found th.en
most of the heat would have been taken from them by the time they reao~ed
the ground and fires 'WOUld not havo resulted. It ia noted they landed
approximately 700 feet from a railroad traok e.nd inquiriea were oonduoted by
MI'!' to determine whether or not the partioles oould havo been originally a
pa.rt of a liuer in a smoke staok or some other part of the steam engine. Theee
inquiries resulted in positive information -that the particles did not oome from
a train or looomotive. Measurements of the four pieoes examined revealed
that they had most likely been originally all part of one hollow oylinder,
eight inohes in diameter and three sixteenth• of a.n inoh in thioknesa. It
felt that ono piooo falling from a great height would haw still retained
a good part of its heat and probably 11ould have mashed when 1t hit the ground.
A aoiontiat, whom Doan Bunker did not identify by name, recalled that oast
iron oylindors of similar measurements had been used in New Mexioo on
roaearoh work on a guided missile projeot. However, this unidentified scientist
not so oonoludo to the exoluaion or all other possibilities.
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is intere l ting to note that the examination at MIT was a.otually oonduoted
b) (7)(0) who furnished the Boston Office with an informal report similar~
in all major details to that supplied by Dean Bunker above. The man at MIT ,.
are gathering through friends all additional pieoes of the origin&l oylin ~
available. These will be turned over to the Boston Office. No further
examination is being oonduotad by MIT and no effort is ·being ma.de t
reoonatruot tho original cylinder.
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Unlesa advised to the contrary by August 15• 1947 the
destroy these specimon,. In tho interim they will be transmitted to the
Bureau on speoifio Bureau instruotiona.
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