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FBI file 62-HQ-83894 Flying Discs, section 3

Department of War · 2026-05-08 · 190 pages · text from the file's own layer

This section of FBI file 62-HQ-83894 on flying discs collects 1947 FBI memoranda, teletypes and Army Air Forces intelligence papers. It includes F. M. Johnson's report of discs near Mt. Adams on June 24, 1947, the Maury Island claims of Harold Dahl and Fred Crisman, the fatal B-25 crash at Kelso, Washington that killed investigators Davidson and Brown, MIT findings that New Hampshire fragments were ordinary cast iron, and A. C. Urie's Twin Falls sighting. It ends with the Bureau discontinuing its disc investigations.

  • p. 9 …Depar tment of Justioe, ~ Seattle , Washington . \ Attached aUl'Ullary for11arded for your information. 1 Inola DONALD…
  • p. 33 …Smith of United Airlines of Seattle , Washington to attend this meeting. Dahl and Chrisman maintained they…
  • p. 34 • ' •. r .· ,, that the Seattle Post-Intelligencer had received from the Fire Chief at Harbor, Washington, to…
  • p. 37 …June, 1947 he was requested by the Seattle ,-~---w.ot::Lcci±c:....,..Jiu:nu:t..e…
  • p. 39 …at his home, 3027 ..est Laurelhurst Drive, Seattle at which time S:ilTH stated he had…
  • p. 41 …no investigation was being conducted by the Seattle Office. CRI~L\N at this time related…
  • p. 42 …when he drove S:!ITH to Seattle to get his car and thL>t DAHL went…
  • p. 43 …retained as an exhibit i n the Seattle Office . The following information was obtained by Special…
  • p. 44 …CRIS'!'!AN drove SllITH back to Boeing Field near Seattle where &.'ITH desired to pick up…
  • p. 48 …About an hour after his arrival in Seattle, which was approximately 7:30 F'. 1'. , LANTZ…
  • p. 49 …JOHN NOLAN at the County-City Building, Seattle and made a deposition of the facts relating…
  • p. 52 …in Seattl.e tor a very brief time and the second time in Boise, Idaho Y…
  • p. 54 …Crismon that I sb.ould like to pick up my oar in Seattle. llr. Crismon drove…
  • p. 56 …Notary Public In and for the state or aahington, residing at Seattle• •
  • p. 89 …FPB ERISJWJ' A1\Tr &\F0LTI "i,..,.__ l}ABL, TAC0V , ''."AS>fDTGTCltJ ·· · ~ SECURITY ,~ATTER - X Re Seattle…
  • p. 92 …He stated he flew to Seattle and got Captain Sl'ITH, and that Lieutenant ffP011N and…
  • p. 95 …considered as Referred Upon Completion to the Seattle Office . • JEJ:FPMc Encs . (RE~ISTERED) AIR 'f…
  • p. 115 ''t 1f FBI SEATTLE 8- 14- 47 5-18 PM . /2 ~ ~RECTOR FBI ROUTINE /.!., F~t…
  • p. 143 …FBI SEATTLE 8-14- 47 5-21 PM /4RECTOR FBI URGENT L. R. BRUMMETT. SID'l…
  • p. 175 …Report on a 'Flying Saucer 1 • 11 lfo action being ta}fen by Seattl e . - 2 (\
  • p. 178 …A,ttrICHOLS, Seattle:...,.w;s~ton, August 12, 1947 SECURITY MATI'ER X· The newspaper , Seattle…
  • p. 180 …102nd Street, Seattle, and their version of the object corresponded with that of NICHOLS and STANLEY…
  • p. 186 …writer that while driving between Ellensburg and Seattle, Washing• ton, about 3:30 P.M., on…
'Saucer' Seen
~lying Down
Snak.e Gorge
(From Pa,:o Ono)
river facing toward the north. The
boys saw it coming about ha!! a.
mile up the canyon, and we all lost
sight of it in less than a mile."
While the impression was still
vivid in their minds, the three got
together and made rough sketches
of what they had seen. These, in
turn, were the basis for the artist's
conception of the strange affair by
Vic Goertzen of Twin Falls for the
Times-News.
"It was all one color-sort of a
light sky blue with a red, tubular
~fiery ~low a.t the side of the top or
' hood," Urie continued.
··'.1he canyon floor is rough at
hat '1)articular point, and it rode
up and down over the hills and hol
lov.s at a speed indicating some
typi:. of control faster than the
reflexes of man. It Is my opinion
that it is guided by instruments and
must be powered by atomic energy,
as it made very little noise-just a
s-w-i-s-h as It passed by."
Urie described. the size as about
20 feet long by 10 feet high and
10 feet wide, giving lt an oblong
shape. It might be described as look
ing like an inverted pie-plate or
broad-brimmed straw hat that had
been compressed from two sides.
Pressed for his candid opinion of
just what it was, Urie said that he
was convinced that there was some
thing to this flying saucer situation.
"I know a number of the people who
have also seen them and I know
that they're not just imagining
something or trying to get their
names in the paper," Urie com
mented.
"I do know that it scared the boys
and made me feel pretty uneasy,"
he added.
Tracing down a rumor that County
Commissioner Hawkins had seen an
unusual object in the air on the
same day as Urie's experience, the
Times-News called him at his Filer
home.
"Yes, I did," he replied without
hesitation. "I'll have to admit I've
been skeptical all along until I saw
it with my own eyes. I can't say
what It was, but I can say there's
something in the air."
Hawkins related that while at
Salmon dam Wednesday morning,
a sound resembling the echo of a
motor caused him to look upward,
and there he saw two circular ob
jects that reflected light. They were
traveling at a great speed and
hlgh,;,r than most airplanes, accord
'ng t.o Hawkins.
Aslde from this, he declined to
add d'etails, except Lo say, ''There's
something in the air."
His general description, however,
corresponded closely to those of
hundreds of persons who reported
seeing flying saucers after Kenneth
Arnold, Boise businessman, had
touched off the deluge by telling of
coming upon nine disc-like objects
whlle he was flying in his private
plane in Washington.
Thereafter, the nation became in
creasingly flying saucer conscious,
creating a state of mind that made
It possible for four 'teen age Twin
Falls boys to cause a mild sensa
tion when they built a model flying
disc and tossed into a. local yard
July 10. This was subseuently re
vealed as a. hoax, following investi
gation by the anny and FBI.
Thereafter the saucer reports
tapered off Into a few scattered in
cidents until the question was re
vived by this week's occurrences.
Speculation has ranged from
mention that the discs could be
army or naVY guided missile experi
ments, or that they could be similar
experiments by some foreign coun
try, to "something out of this
world."
Whatever, they are, a lot of people
have seen "something."

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