FBIS Coverage of the Middle East Peace Talks- 1978 September

PPROVED FOR RELEASE CIA HISTORICAL COLLECTIONS DIVISION AR 70-14 13 0V201
V. 2 9 Sep 78 N8 s
At the time I said this, in 'Abd an-Nasir's time, I thought just as I said--that theis preferable to the other. Eight years have elapsed since and there is a different siayon and a different regime. When I look and ask what's next? What is ahead? I thensay that peace without Sham ash-Shaykh is preferable to Sharm ash-Shaykh without peace
if freedom of navigation is guaranteed to Israel. I can cite examples, mine and others,and the question, in each period of time, is whether the issue is realistic. a
I want to go back for a moment to the questions of the eastern and southern fronts. Iwant to say why, also in the event Jordan proposes to us a full peace under conditions -itis raising today, I do ot recommend that we discuss this. How do we, and should we,examine this? First, where will the proposed Arab agreement take us? To which border--to the border between Kfar Saba and Qalqilyah? This is demanded by King Husayn. Or,to the international border between Gaza and Elat? !illit bring us to security arrange-Sments--thepossible security arrangements described by the defense minister here--in theSinai, or to impossible security arrangements when the Arabs refuse even to accept theAlton plan in Judaea and Samaria? In addition, another, a less concrete question--whenwe withdraw, in which land should we be ready to become foreigners and in which land not?'
I am prepared to be a foreigner in the Sinai and do not desire to be one in JudaeariandSamaria. I am not at odds with the position of the Rabin government that did notbring Husayn's plan to the Knesset for a decision, nor do crtiethswocndtdthe negotiations for not succeedi on ord I criticize those who conductedtheaneadheredsfornotsu i ng in convincing the Jordanian king to accept the Allonplan. He adhered to his positions and was not amenable to being influenced.
The question facing us now is whether this agreement cari consitute, under the presentircumistances, an appropriate basis which we should endorse.
Finally, I would like to touch on a question raised by MK Rabin regarding the agreementsor understanding with th° United States connected with these peace accords. It is nottrue that the agreement we are now presenting, an agreement which is also connectedwith another agreement called the working paper and achieved between us and the UnitedStates in October 1977, does not include clauses of agreement and commitment betweenus and the United States or agreement to and understanding of our position on the partof the TJnited States--primarily and foremost, the question of the Palestinian state.Furthermore, in the U.S.-Israeli working paper of October 1977 -we find the cleardistinction stating that peace agreements will be betwen Israel and Jordan, Israeland Egypt, Israel and Syria and Israel and Lebanon, while the issues of the West ank and
the Gaza Strip will be discussed with the Arab residents of the territories.
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state is linked to theesse now the question of yes or no to a Palestinianstatehis likento the question of a peace treaty and borders. It is most clearly statedin this agreement that what is now being done with the Arabs of the territories, withthe representtives of the residents of Judaea and Samaria and the Gaza Strip--and onlywith the--is not a pece agreeent. The peace agreement that will be based on Resolution242 should be ma e with Jordan, with the Palestinian Arabs being able to participate inthe Jordanian delegation if they wish.. It is only with this delegation that they willdetermine the peace agreement and the borders on the basis of 242. It is not onlyPrime Minister Begin ad president as-Sadat who signed this agreement but also PresidentCarter, as a witness. There cannot be a more precise definition for the lack of:,entic to view the Arabs of the territories or these territories as a state--whenpriace agr'eenerts and borders should be determined only with Jordan, and the Palestinianscan of course .Join th~e Jordanian delegation.