FBIS Coverage of the Middle East Peace Talks- 1978 September

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the rest of the troops will be left in Judaea, Samaria and Gaza. The deployment Iwill be done shortly and they, Israelrs soldiers, and only they, will guard ournational security. Our army will remain in Judaea and Samaria beyond the tran-sition period. This is the basic change in all the deliberations which have takenplace over the last 2 years and up to this very day. [heckling] Again, dearfriends.... [heckling]
[Chairman Shamir] Members of Knesset, I request you to refrain from arguments betweenthe Knesset benches. Can there be heckling? No exchanges of remarks between members
of Knesset is possible. KIICShelomo Hillel, rill you please keep order, please.
[Begin] We left no doubt and we announced that after the transition period of 5 years'when the decision on the problem of the sovereignty is put forward, we will demandour right to sovereignty over Judaea and Samaria and Gaza. If an agreement is achievedagainst the background of counterdemands, fine. If no agreement is achieved--the
result will be that the arrangements for autonomy and the security of Israel willcontinue... Now, I want to draw the Knessetts attention... [heckling]
i.,
Mr Tawfiq Tubi, I have already read a great many PRAVDA articles, why should I listento your remarks. I would prefer the voice of Moscow, but I have read articles inPRAVDA, I don't need you. I know what the position is.
I now want to emphasize what we prevented concerning this agreement, with regard to theprevious proposals presented to us. One: There is not, nor will there be, any referendumin Judaea, Samaria and .Gaza. We had, at the conference, to remind our friends thatMeinetagen [British officer in Palestine who wrote a diary in which he maintained thatSinai was never Egyptian] writes in his memoirs that, in the twenties, it was suggestedto Arthur. James Balfour that a referendum be held on Eretz Yisra'el and the then
British foreign.minister replied.: If there is a referendum on Eretz Yisra'el, it iscorrect that all the Jews throughout the world should participate in it. This pro-posal was struck and the authorization will be given by the elected of the inhabitants.
Second: There is not, nor will there.be, under any condition or any circumstances, aPalestinian state. Third:
[Heckling It is impossible to make peace without a Palestinian state, Just as no -peace can be made by destroying the State of Israel.]
Members of Knesset, I ask for silence. Mr 'Wilner, I can say to you--I did.not permit
myself to say this to Mr Tawfiq .Tubi--you should remember to whom [words indistinct]
prophecy about building'the temple. So please do not hurry to commit suicide.
[MK Wilner heckles about .the agreement being built on sand]
Enough; enough heckling. You will take part in the debate. Enough, members of Knesset,
I ask for silence. Third: The organizationof murderers .called the PLO [heckling]
MK Tawfiq Zayyad.., [heckling] and I want. to tell you, the mayor of Nazareth in the
State of Israel, I want to tell you that since the days of the Nazis there has neverbeen such a barbaric organization, antihu.mane, as that called the PLO.... [heckling]MK Tawfiq Zayyad, I ask you to cease. I ask you to cease, [heckling]
[Knesset chairman]. :MK Tawfiq Tubi, do you want.[words indistinct]. Do you want tovote .in an orderly way?. MK Tawfiq Tubi, MK Tawfiq Tubi, you know what heckling is,you know. what heckling is and you know the difference between heckling and disturbances.I.ask you not to disturb.. Members of Knesset, I ask for silence. I ask the prime 'minister to continue. his remarks.