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This CIA file, whose date is not given, contains a secret debriefing report on a 1960 tourist trip to the Soviet Union. The traveler, a Library of Congress employee, went to Moscow, Kiev and Lviv in September 1960. The report includes an operational diary, biographical information on contacts, material on intelligence requirements, and transcripts of Ukrainian Radio interviews. The briefer's comments call the operation successful and say the traveler detected Soviet surveillance. The document does not discuss UFOs.

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Question: What about negative things?
Answer: I do not share your views about your political structure. You have
much less freedom than we have.
Question: But wait a minute, Mr. 0. Specifically, what do you mean "less
freedom?"
Answer: For example, I was limited to stay in Lviv only for-five days, and
we in America do not have such limitations. I could not go to other
cities such as Stryi. Furthermore, Soviet papers are available in
New York. You can buy them in stores and see them in libraries.
Here you do not have foreign papers available to anybody.
Question: You live in the capitalist system, and.you have exploitation by the
monopolies. Is that not so?
Answer: It is not so as your press reports it. The monopolies are under the
control of the federal laws, and there is a tendency to limit monopolies.
America exports only 4 per cent of its products and the market for its
industry is mainly in the United States.
Question: And which system is going to win?
Answer: God knows. I think that after a while the socialist and capitalist
systems will come closer together and that there will be some kind
of a compromise. Your system will come closer to our system and
will become more free economically and politically.
Question: But in our country all people support the communist system, and
nobody wants to return to capitalism and czarism.
Answer: •You are right, but you present only two alternatives: communism and
czarism. I think that we could have a third alternative: a social
system with more freedom in the political and economic aspects.
Question: In spite of all, we believe in the victory of communism.
Answer: Because you are dogmatists. You have a dogma, but we do not have such
an all embracing doctrine which gives the answer to all the questions.
We have all kinds of philosophy which try to give the solution to
different questions. We are seeking.different ways of solution, and
we do not pretend to have absolute truth in this respect.
Question : So that means that you do not know where you are going.
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FOIA release, from the cia-readingroom collection. The PDF is mirrored here; the original link is above. 88 pages are in the text index: search them above, or from the library's search.